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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:39:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Marvin Humphrey (JIRA)" <jira@apache.org>
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Subject: [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-178) Location of LICENSE/NOTICE files in
 binary release artifacts
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Marvin Humphrey commented on LEGAL-178:
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It's been pointed out on general@incubator list that that convenience
binaries are not and cannot be official ASF releases.  The VOTE of an Apache
PMC only applies to the canonical source release, and while incidental quality
control may be performed by some members of the PMC on the convenience binary,
only the source archive qualifies an official ASF distribution, released as an
act of the corporation.

As this discussion has illustrated, the policies in src-headers.html are not
cleanly applicable to binary distributions.  We may make efforts to apply them
as best we can and social norms have arisen around those efforts, but quality
control can only be porous when the rules don't fit and our documented release
approval process provides zero guarantees that any PMC member has even looked
at any given binary artifact.

Our distribution areas contain official source releases which are subjected to
our official policies, but they also contain "other stuff".  By tradition,
this "other stuff" consists mainly of "convenience binaries", but
determinations as to just what "other stuff" may live in our distribution
areas are made informally -- primarily by the PMC in question, but also by
Infrastructure, etc.

In my view, it would be best to leave the status quo alone and continue with
informal enforcement of norms, because the prospect of making official ASF
binary releases is much, much bigger than just where the licensing info must
go in specific binary formats.  That would mean remanding the case of what to
do with Chukwa's binary -- which while it may violate social norms regarding
layout of jar-flavored convenience binaries, does not violate anybody's
license nor ASF policies regarding distributions (since it is not an official
distribution) -- to the Incubator PMC.  

                
> Location of LICENSE/NOTICE files in binary release artifacts
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-178
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-178
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: ant elder
>
> Over at the Incubator a question has come up over where the LICENSE and NOTICE files should be located in binary release artifacts. I can't find any precise or accurate documentation on this so could that be defined here?
> The web page http://apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice says:
>  "Every Apache distribution should include a NOTICE file in the top directory, along with the standard LICENSE file."
> However things like Java .jar artifacts don't do that and instead have them located in the /META-INF directory. Related to that, what about things like Windows .msi or .exe insaller packages which don't have a "top directory"? 
> I vaguely remember this question coming up before but i can't find anything in the archives now, FWIR the answer then was it was ok for the LICENSE/NOTICE to be located where ever was most appropriate and expected for the environment and binary artifact type.
> Any comments?

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