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From "Lawrence Rosen (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Comment Edited] (LEGAL-172) Require a copyright notice in source headers
Date Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:16:50 GMT

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Lawrence Rosen edited comment on LEGAL-172 at 7/22/13 5:16 PM:
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Sam Ruby wrote:
>   Vote tally:
>    +1: 0
>     0: 1 (non-binding)
>     -1: 20 (5 binding, 15 non-binding)
>   The result of the vote is that we will retain existing policy and continue to discourage
copyright notices outside of the NOTICE file.

I'm not surprised. I am comforted by the fact that absolutely no attorney has supported the
existing Apache policy in this thread or publicly on this list. My professional opinion as
an attorney stands unopposed (although I'm enough of a lawyer to know that that won't last
long!). Democracy rules here at Apache, even when the voters vote their guts instead of their
heads.

To put this in context, our copyright notice is a tiny subject in a vast sea of legal and
ethical issues. I've lost important votes before and we've ended up with lousy presidents
and unnecessary wars. We've even lost important Supreme Court cases (e.g., Larry Lessig and
the Eldred matter). Life and Apache go on. 

/Larry
                
      was (Author: lrosen@rosenlaw.com):
    Sam Ruby wrote:
>   Vote tally:
>    +1: 0
>     0: 1 (non-binding)
>     -1: 20 (5 binding, 15 non-binding)
>   The result of the vote is that we will retain existing policy and continue to discourage
copyright notices outside of the NOTICE file.

I'm not surprised. I am comforted by the fact that absolutely no attorney besides me has supported
the existing Apache policy in this thread or publicly on this list. My professional opinion
as an attorney stands unopposed (although I'm enough of a lawyer to know that that won't last
long!). Democracy rules here at Apache, even when the voters vote their guts instead of their
heads.

To put this in context, our copyright notice is a tiny subject in a vast sea of legal and
ethical issues. I've lost important votes before and we've ended up with lousy presidents
and unnecessary wars. We've even lost important Supreme Court cases (e.g., Larry Lessig and
the Eldred matter). Life and Apache go on. 

/Larry
                  
> Require a copyright notice in source headers
> --------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-172
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-172
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Sam Ruby
>            Assignee: Sam Ruby
>
> The current ASF Source Header and Copyright Notice Policy does not include, and actively
discourages, any copyright notice in the header:
> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html
> Larry Rosen has requested that any source file that contains a license header also include
a copyright notice[1], and that his vote be counted[2].  This JIRA tracks these requests.
> The vote itself will take place on the legal-discuss mailing list, start shortly after
this month's board meeting on Wednesday, July 17th, and will continue through Sunday July
21st with the results published on Monday July 22nd.  Only votes from members of the Legal
Affairs Committee PMC, as recorded in [3] will be considered binding.  To pass, the vote will
need a minimum of three +1's and more +1's than -1's.
> Prior discussion of this issue:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200502.mbox/browser#msg-12
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-114
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-124
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-168
> More references can be found here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-114?focusedCommentId=13679229&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13679229
> Footnotes:
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-114?focusedCommentId=13704820&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13704820
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-114?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13702248#comment-13702248
> [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/committee-info.txt

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