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From "Noah Slater (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-172) Require a copyright notice in source headers
Date Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:56:50 GMT

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Noah Slater commented on LEGAL-172:
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> Who said you had to do that? The date in the copyright notice is supposed to be "the
year of first publication of the work". 17 USC 401(b)(2). The only time I'd change the date
is if the file itself is significantly changed such that its author wants to treat it as a
"new" derivative work. In all other respects, there is nothing to maintain!

So you are suggesting that for every single release, we go through every single file, and
we determine if it has "significantly changed" since the past release. This sounds like a
very onerous process to add to our ~140 TLP release processes. (I am speaking with my release
manager hat on.)

> If the file becomes unstapled from the rest of the Apache compilation, we don't lose
track of its provenance.

How big a risk is this? And what are the consequences for us? (And how much do we care?)

Also, I am not sure why trademark disclaimers are being discussed on this ticket. It is out-of-scope,
and probably unwarranted.

> This header business ought to be a do-it-once-and-then-forget-it task. It should be revisited
as part of a check-list only when there is a new project software release. Other than that,
I intend no burdens to tinker with headers all the time.

CouchDB releases once a month (or we try to). It currently takes me about four hours, just
to cut a release. Checking every single file would significantly add to this burden. Releases
are painful enough.

                
> Require a copyright notice in source headers
> --------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-172
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-172
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Sam Ruby
>            Assignee: Sam Ruby
>
> The current ASF Source Header and Copyright Notice Policy does not include, and actively
discourages, any copyright notice in the header:
> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html
> Larry Rosen has requested that any source file that contains a license header also include
a copyright notice[1], and that his vote be counted[2].  This JIRA tracks these requests.
> The vote itself will take place on the legal-discuss mailing list, start shortly after
this month's board meeting on Wednesday, July 17th, and will continue through Sunday July
21st with the results published on Monday July 22nd.  Only votes from members of the Legal
Affairs Committee PMC, as recorded in [3] will be considered binding.  To pass, the vote will
need a minimum of three +1's and more +1's than -1's.
> Prior discussion of this issue:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200502.mbox/browser#msg-12
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-114
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-124
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-168
> More references can be found here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-114?focusedCommentId=13679229&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13679229
> Footnotes:
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-114?focusedCommentId=13704820&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13704820
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-114?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13702248#comment-13702248
> [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/committee-info.txt

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