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From "Dennis E. Hamilton (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Comment Edited] (LEGAL-114) License Header - Short Form?
Date Mon, 08 Jul 2013 18:59:50 GMT

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Dennis E. Hamilton edited comment on LEGAL-114 at 7/8/13 6:59 PM:
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I would prefer 

"Licensed to all recipients under the Apache License 2.0"

I indicated my concern that "to the public" might be easy to misconstrue.  Maybe "the recipient"
is also possible.  (The closed I can find using definitions in the license itself would transpose
to "Licensed to You under the Apache License 2.0".)

I don't see how Larry's preference for a bare copyright notice does anything but tell people
all exclusive rights of the named copyright holder are reserved.  If I saw that, I would have
no idea that there was anything I had permission to do without contacting the asserted copyright
holder.  That strikes me as a "hands-off" notice and I suspect that is the case for other
conscientious lay persons.)

The only way I know to deal with provenance is to link to a place where the particular work
can be found and its provenance accounted for (i.e., in an SVN repository somewhere, along
with what the nature of "somewhere" is.)  I have endeavored to do it that way in my own work
(not on an Apache Project).  It makes for more than a one-line comment.
                
      was (Author: orcmid):
    I would prefer 

"Licensed to all recipients under the Apache License 2.0"

I indicated my concern that "to the public" might be easy to misconstrue.  Maybe "the recipient"
is also possible.  (The closed I can find using definitions in the license itself would transpose
to "Licensed to You under the Apache License 2.0".)

I don't see how Larry's preference for a bare copyright notice does anything but tell people
all exclusive rights of the named copyright holder are reserved.  If I saw that, I would have
no idea that there was anything I had permission to do without contacting the asserted copyright
holder.  That strikes me as a "hands-off" notice and I suspect that is the case for other
lay persons.)

The only way I know to deal with provenance is to link to a place where the particular work
can be found and its provenance accounted for (i.e., in an SVN repository somewhere, along
with what the nature of "somewhere" is.)  I have endeavored to do it that way in my own work
(not on an Apache Project).  It makes for more than a one-line comment.
                  
> License Header - Short Form?
> ----------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-114
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-114
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Roger Meier
>
> Hi all
> Today the license headers within files does need ~ 15 lines within a file.
> This needs lot of space at the top of a file, probably too much if you have a small README
file. 
> e.g. http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/thrift/trunk/tutorial/README?view=markup
> Is it possible to use a smaller header reflecting the license terms within a source or
README file?
> Can we use something like that one or a shorter one?
> {noformat}
> /*
>  * Copyright (c) The Apache Software Foundation
>  * Licensed to the ASF under one or more contributor license agreements
>  * (see NOTICE file distributed with this work). ASF licenses this file to you
>  * under the following license http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
>  * Software distributed is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES
>  * OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
>  */
> {noformat}
> Should we mention also the License identifier (Apache-2.0) used within spdx standard?
> see http://spdx.org/licenses/
> Thanks,
> Roger

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