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From Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>
Subject RE: distribution to proprietary channels / app stores
Date Sun, 28 Jul 2013 02:20:14 GMT
Operations is the place to ask for setting up the account. However,
before that can be done we would require appropriate approvals from VP
Legal. Shane suggested how to go about that (open an issue and provide
the necessary information for the legal team to evaluate).


Sent from my Windows Phone From: Brian LeRoux
Sent: 7/27/2013 6:39 PM
To: legal-discuss@apache.org
Subject: Re: distribution to proprietary channels / app stores
This is the information and/or authority I require to register for the
program to distribute in the App Store:

- The legal authority to bind your company/organization to Apple
Developer Program legal agreements.
- A registered legal entity name. This name will appear as the
"Seller" in the App Store.
- Address for the company’s principal place of business or corporate
- A D-U-N-S Number assigned to a legal entity. Learn more.
- A valid credit card for purchase.

Is this list the right place ask about these things or is this more in
operations@apache.org realm?

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
> Hey guys, I've answered this earlier in the thread but, again, yes the
> Cordova PMC wants to do this! =)
> We do and have done many releases via ./dist but this is different.
> We're hoping to release an app that will help users test Cordova based
> applications without having to provision a device with the Apple
> Developer program themselves. Cordova releases contain code for many
> platforms, operating systems, testing utilities, and so on. This is
> just a companion app for helping devs get started faster. (This is a
> precious distinction but one I think that is worth mentioning.)
> My line of inquiry was to determine if there was precedent or policy
> here. From what I'm reading the answer is no. I'll link up relevant
> documentation from Apple and open issues to that effect.
> What if I create an Apple Developer account under the name Apache
> Software Foundation? That is the outcome I'm looking for.
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Kevan Miller <kevan.miller@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 27, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
>>> To clarify: legal-discuss@ is for general discussions of legal issues related
to Apache projects, however it is not necessarily the place where you will get a definitive
policy answer.
>>> If the Apache Cordova PMC does specifically wish to deploy an official release
to the Apple App store, the PMC should probably open a LEGAL JIRA ticket with the details
of specifically what the project wants to do.  That way, we can nail down the specific plans,
and then VP, Legal can work with counsel to review the agreements, etc.
>>> I agree with Luciano - the real question is, is this an act of the Apache Cordova
PMC making an official release, or is this just some committers on the project who want to
do this?
>> Well, I assume that is the question at hand… If not, then there may not be much
to talk about on legal-discuss… Unless there are questions about licensing/dependencies
on apple software -- in either case, specific questions/scenarios are really helpful.
>>> Fundamentally, we need to ensure that when we release Apache software, we ensure
that users of that software have maximum freedoms as specified by the Apache license.  So
I would imagine you would first release a normal Apache release (i.e. on /dist), and then
if the PMC believes it will help the project's users, you would figure out how to then create
an additional release on the App store, because it would be useful to more users.
>>> Make sense?
>> Yes. I imagine similarly.
>> If the Cordova PMC is interested in pursuing, then I would expect them to have performed
some investigation and have some specific questions/concerns. It would be really helpful to
list (point to) apple's terms and conditions / developer agreements, etc that need to be understood/investigated.
 That way we all don't have to go searching https://developer.apple.com/ for relevant docs.
At the moment, it looks like this may be difficult/impossible. A number of Apple developer
systems are shutdown due to their recent security problems -- https://developer.apple.com/support/system-status/
>> --kevan
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