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From: Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:04:35 +0400
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Subject: GPL v3 library in ASF project Was: Datetime picker for calendar (and
 maybe other components)
To: dev <dev@openmeetings.apache.org>, legal-discuss@apache.org
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Hello legal folks,

One of openmeetings contributors asks if we can use GPL v3 (no
optional clauses) library in our product. I think that so-called
compatibility with APL is only one way compatibility [1] and we still
cannot use GPL-ed products in our code. Could you please comment on
this?

[1] http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.en.html
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http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com> w=
rote:
> I disagree
> AFAIK derived means you have changes something and include changed librar=
y
> to your product.
>
> According to the link below:
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.en.html
>
> In addition to clarifying the rules about licenses that are already
> GPL-compatible, GPLv3 is also newly compatible with a few other licenses.
> The Apache License 2.0 is a prime example.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com=
>wrote:
>
>> When some product uses a library, the product is derived.
>> --
>> With best regards / =D1=81 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B8=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D1=88=D0=
=B8=D0=BC=D0=B8 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F=D0=
=BC=D0=B8,
>> Alexei Fedotov / =D0=90=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=B5=D0=B9 =D0=A4=D0=B5=
=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B2,
>> http://dataved.ru/
>> +7 916 562 8095
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com=
>
>> wrote:
>> > We are going to use their library with no modifications, so this is no=
t
>> the
>> > case?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Alexei Fedotov
>> > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> > This licensing incompatibility applies *only* when some Apache proj=
ect
>> >> software becomes a derivative work of some GPLv3 software,
>> >>
>> >> http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> With best regards / =D1=81 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B8=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D1=88=
=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B8 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F=
=D0=BC=D0=B8,
>> >> Alexei Fedotov / =D0=90=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=B5=D0=B9 =D0=A4=D0=
=B5=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B2,
>> >> http://dataved.ru/
>> >> +7 916 562 8095
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.c=
om
>> >> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > From the link I have already sent:
>> >> >
>> >> > LicensingKendo UI is licensed under GPLv3, which is compatible with
>> >> Apache
>> >> > License 2.0
>> >> >
>> >> > GPLv3 is also newly compatible with a few other licenses. The Apach=
e
>> >> > License 2.0 is a prime example. Lots of great free software is
>> available
>> >> > under this license, with strong communities surrounding it. We hope
>> that
>> >> > this change in GPLv3 will foster more cooperation and sharing withi=
n
>> the
>> >> > free software community.
>> >> >
>> >> > More info here: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Alexei Fedotov
>> >> > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Do they have double licensing?
>> >> > > On Apr 25, 2013 7:30 AM, "Maxim Solodovnik" <solomax666@gmail.com=
>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Project page states: Licence GPLv3 AND Apache compatible
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Alexei Fedotov
>> >> > > > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > There is though javascript exception in Apache practice which
>> >> treats
>> >> > > > > javascript as data, thus effectively ignores its license. I
>> think
>> >> we
>> >> > > > better
>> >> > > > > ask on the legal list.
>> >> > > > > On Apr 24, 2013 9:31 PM, "Maxim Solodovnik" <
>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>> >> > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > it is GPLv3 which is Apache compatible
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Alexei Fedotov
>> >> > > > > > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > I cannot check the license from my phone
>> >> > > > > > > On Apr 24, 2013 4:46 PM, "Maxim Solodovnik" <
>> >> > solomax666@gmail.com>
>> >> > > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > Hello all,
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > I would like to propose these Datetime picker
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://www.7thweb.net/wicket-jquery-ui/kendo/datetimepicker/DateTimePick=
erPage
>> >> > > > > > > > to be used in our Calendar event. and maybe other
>> components
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > pros:
>> >> > > > > > > > 1) it is smooth and jquery based (currently Wicket uses
>> YUI
>> >> > > > > datepicker)
>> >> > > > > > > > 2) it allows to select both date and time in one compon=
ent
>> >> > > > > > > > 3) it has compatible license
>> >> > > > > > > > 4) it has working demo, so integration will be easy
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > What do you think?
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > --
>> >> > > > > > > > WBR
>> >> > > > > > > > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > --
>> >> > > > > > WBR
>> >> > > > > > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --
>> >> > > > WBR
>> >> > > > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > WBR
>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > WBR
>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax

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