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From Christian Müller <christian.muel...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: GPL v3 library in ASF project Was: Datetime picker for calendar (and maybe other components)
Date Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:49:20 GMT
You cannot as mentioned at http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html.

Best,
Christian


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello legal folks,
>
> One of openmeetings contributors asks if we can use GPL v3 (no
> optional clauses) library in our product. I think that so-called
> compatibility with APL is only one way compatibility [1] and we still
> cannot use GPL-ed products in our code. Could you please comment on
> this?
>
> [1] http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.en.html
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I disagree
> > AFAIK derived means you have changes something and include changed
> library
> > to your product.
> >
> > According to the link below:
> > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.en.html
> >
> > In addition to clarifying the rules about licenses that are already
> > GPL-compatible, GPLv3 is also newly compatible with a few other licenses.
> > The Apache License 2.0 is a prime example.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> When some product uses a library, the product is derived.
> >> --
> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > We are going to use their library with no modifications, so this is
> not
> >> the
> >> > case?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Alexei Fedotov
> >> > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > This licensing incompatibility applies *only* when some Apache
> project
> >> >> software becomes a derivative work of some GPLv3 software,
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > From the link I have already sent:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > LicensingKendo UI is licensed under GPLv3, which is compatible
with
> >> >> Apache
> >> >> > License 2.0
> >> >> >
> >> >> > GPLv3 is also newly compatible with a few other licenses. The
> Apache
> >> >> > License 2.0 is a prime example. Lots of great free software is
> >> available
> >> >> > under this license, with strong communities surrounding it. We
hope
> >> that
> >> >> > this change in GPLv3 will foster more cooperation and sharing
> within
> >> the
> >> >> > free software community.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > More info here: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Alexei Fedotov
> >> >> > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Do they have double licensing?
> >> >> > > On Apr 25, 2013 7:30 AM, "Maxim Solodovnik" <
> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > Project page states: Licence GPLv3 AND Apache compatible
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Alexei Fedotov
> >> >> > > > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > > There is though javascript exception in Apache
practice which
> >> >> treats
> >> >> > > > > javascript as data, thus effectively ignores its
license. I
> >> think
> >> >> we
> >> >> > > > better
> >> >> > > > > ask on the legal list.
> >> >> > > > > On Apr 24, 2013 9:31 PM, "Maxim Solodovnik" <
> >> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >> >> > > > wrote:
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > it is GPLv3 which is Apache compatible
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Alexei Fedotov
> >> >> > > > > > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > I cannot check the license from my phone
> >> >> > > > > > > On Apr 24, 2013 4:46 PM, "Maxim Solodovnik"
<
> >> >> > solomax666@gmail.com>
> >> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > Hello all,
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > I would like to propose these Datetime
picker
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> http://www.7thweb.net/wicket-jquery-ui/kendo/datetimepicker/DateTimePickerPage
> >> >> > > > > > > > to be used in our Calendar event.
and maybe other
> >> components
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > pros:
> >> >> > > > > > > > 1) it is smooth and jquery based
(currently Wicket uses
> >> YUI
> >> >> > > > > datepicker)
> >> >> > > > > > > > 2) it allows to select both date
and time in one
> component
> >> >> > > > > > > > 3) it has compatible license
> >> >> > > > > > > > 4) it has working demo, so integration
will be easy
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > What do you think?
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > > > --
> >> >> > > > > > > > WBR
> >> >> > > > > > > > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >> > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > --
> >> >> > > > > > WBR
> >> >> > > > > > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > --
> >> >> > > > WBR
> >> >> > > > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > WBR
> >> >> > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > WBR
> >> > Maxim aka solomax
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
>
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