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From: "Marvin Humphrey (JIRA)" <jira@apache.org>
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Subject: [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-62) What are the required 3rd party
 notices that should go in the NOTICE file?
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Marvin Humphrey commented on LEGAL-62:
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Roy Fielding wrote:

> The historical reason why we have them separated is because GPL requires the
> preservation of notices even when it subsumes all other licenses, thus
> preserving our advertising clause in a way that would otherwise have been
> incompatible with the GPL. 

While at ApacheCon NA 2013 in Portland, I buttonholed Roy and asked him to
expand on this comment.  Here is my understanding of his answer, phrased as an
FAQ entry:

--
What are the historical motivations behind the NOTICE file?

The NOTICE file serves several purposes, but the primary reason for separating
NOTICE out of LICENSE in the Apache License 2.0 was to preserve the
attribution requirement spelled out in section 3 of the Apache License 1.1 in
a way that would otherwise have been incompatible with the GPL. 

When carried by the LICENSE, the attribution language constitutes an
additional requirement which conflicts with the GPL.  However, when carried by
the optional NOTICE file instead of the license, the attribution requirement
does not conflict with the GPL because the GPL requires the preservation of
notices even when it subsumes all other licenses.
--

I'm not sure we need that to go into "Previously Asked Questions", but I
wanted to capture it for posterity.  It's often been challenging to
explain why NOTICE exists, and understanding its origins is helpful.

                
> What are the required 3rd party notices that should go in the NOTICE file?
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-62
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-62
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: ant elder
>            Assignee: Robert Burrell Donkin
>
> The ASF doc on the NOTICE file states:
> 2. The remainder of the NOTICE file is to be used for required third-party notices. The NOTICE file may also include copyright notices moved from source files submitted to the ASF.
> See: http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice
> I understand the part about "copyright notices moved from source files" but what are required third-party notices?
> After participating in many Incubator poddling release reviews I've seen poddlings asked to do release respins because they've left stuff out and also to respin for including text that is said shouldn't be included. There doesn't seem to be much common understanding on what these notices are, and like LEGAL-31 this is a constant point of contention at the Incubator so it would be really helpful to have some clarification.

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