Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FDF5E809 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 49046 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jan 2013 18:28:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 48833 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jan 2013 18:28:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 48826 invoked by uid 99); 17 Jan 2013 18:28:26 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:28:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-oa0-f53.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username robweir, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:28:26 +0000 Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j6so2990421oag.12 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:28:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.187.66 with SMTP id fq2mr4722986obc.86.1358447305396; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.225.66 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:28:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130117181652.GA3320@lp-shahaf.local> References: <20130117174927.GA4626@srcf.ucam.org> <20130117181652.GA3320@lp-shahaf.local> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:28:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Clarification of "distribution" under the SGA From: Rob Weir To: Daniel Shahaf Cc: legal-discuss@apache.org, Matthew Garrett Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Is there a concrete instance of this question you guys are interested in? > The question is in the context of IBM's SGA for Symphony, where the code is now in the SVN of the OpenOffice project. But, if you mean has anyone with a genuine interest in using the code come forward and asked, then no, this has been hypothetical as far as I can tell. Matt can speak for himself. -Rob > Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 13:13:10 -0500: >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> > The SGA contains the following: >> > >> > "Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and conditions >> > of this Agreement, You hereby grant to the Foundation and to >> > recipients of software distributed by the Foundation a perpetual, >> > worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable >> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of, >> > publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute >> > Your Contributions and such derivative works." >> > >> > and similar language for patents. Is a checkout of code from an Apache >> > svn repository considered "software distributed by the Foundation", even >> > if said code is in an unreleased branch? >> > >> >> By way of background, this is recurring question that has come up with >> OpenOffice. What is the status of code that has been contributed to >> the ASF by SGA, but but yet been taken through an Podling release, or >> IP Clearance and a normal release. In that intermediate stage, what >> do we say about the ability of others to use the code? >> >> IMHO, we can say little or nothing. How could we if it has not get >> gone through a release? The release via our due diligence and vote is >> the mechanism that we (the ASF, via a PMC) use to make a firm >> statement about code. >> >> -Rob >> >> >> > Thanks, >> > -- >> > Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org