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Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:06:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Clarification of "distribution" under the SGA
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: "legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>,
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An SGA is between "you" and the "org", not=0Ayou and the general public.=A0=
 All we are doing=0Ais exercising one of the rights granted to us=0Ain the =
SGA- the right to public redistribution.=0A=0AEnd users have no other confe=
rred "rights" other=0Athan whateverdue diligence they can perform about=0At=
he legalstatus of the distribution such as it is.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A>_______=
_________________________=0A> From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>=
=0A>To: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> =0A>Cc: "legal-discuss@apache=
.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>; Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> =
=0A>Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:03 PM=0A>Subject: Re: Clarification =
of "distribution" under the SGA=0A> =0A>On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:31:45AM =
-0800, Joe Schaefer wrote:=0A>> Anything you can download from one of our p=
ublic servers=0A>> counts as a distribution.=A0 However anything other than=
=0A>> an actual release should be viewed as a "work in progress"=0A>> with =
no promises about the legal status or overall quality=0A>> of the workother=
 than that we have the right to distribute it.=0A>=0A>So if it's in a publi=
c subversion repository, and if it was correctly =0A>submitted under the te=
rms of the SGA, a recipient would have the rights =0A>espoused in the SGA b=
ut should perform their own due diligence?=0A>=0A>-- =0A>Matthew Garrett | =
mjg59@srcf.ucam.org=0A>=0A>=0A>
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:co=
urier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:12pt">An SGA is between "you=
" and the "org", not<br>you and the general public.&nbsp; All we are doing<=
br>is exercising one of the rights granted to us<br>in the SGA- the right t=
o public redistribution.<br><div><span>End users have no other conferred "r=
ights" other</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px=
; font-family: courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: trans=
parent; font-style: normal;"><span>than whatever</span><span> due diligence=
 they can perform about</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font=
-size: 16px; font-family: courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-c=
olor: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>the legal</span><span> status=
 of the distribution such as it is.<br></span></div><div><br></div><div><br=
><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left:
 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">  <div style=3D"font-family: cou=
rier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-=
family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div di=
r=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <hr size=3D"1">  <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Matthew Garrett &lt;mjg59@srcf.ucam=
.org&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Joe Schae=
fer &lt;joe_schaefer@yahoo.com&gt; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;=
">Cc:</span></b> "legal-discuss@apache.org" &lt;legal-discuss@apache.org&gt=
;; Daniel Shahaf &lt;d.s@daniel.shahaf.name&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font=
-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:03 PM<br> <b>=
<span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Clarification of=
 "distribution" under the SGA<br> </font> </div> <br>=0AOn Thu, Jan 17, 201=
3 at 10:31:45AM -0800, Joe Schaefer wrote:<br>&gt; Anything you can downloa=
d from one of our public servers<br>&gt; counts as a distribution.&nbsp; Ho=
wever anything other than<br>&gt; an actual release should be viewed as a "=
work in progress"<br>&gt; with no promises about the legal status or overal=
l quality<br>&gt; of the workother than that we have the right to distribut=
e it.<br><br>So if it's in a public subversion repository, and if it was co=
rrectly <br>submitted under the terms of the SGA, a recipient would have th=
e rights <br>espoused in the SGA but should perform their own due diligence=
?<br><br>-- <br>Matthew Garrett | <a ymailto=3D"mailto:mjg59@srcf.ucam.org"=
 href=3D"mailto:mjg59@srcf.ucam.org">mjg59@srcf.ucam.org</a><br><br><br> </=
div> </div> </blockquote></div>   </div></body></html>
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