Anything you can download from one of our public servers
counts as a distribution.  However anything other than
an actual release should be viewed as a "work in progress"
with no promises about the legal status or overall quality
of the work other than that we have the right to distribute it.


From: Rob Weir <>
To: Daniel Shahaf <>
Cc:; Matthew Garrett <>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Clarification of "distribution" under the SGA

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Daniel Shahaf <> wrote:
> Is there a concrete instance of this question you guys are interested in?

The question is in the context of IBM's SGA for Symphony, where the
code is now in the SVN of the OpenOffice project.

But, if you mean has anyone with a genuine interest in using the code
come forward and asked, then no, this has been hypothetical as far as
I can tell.  Matt can speak for himself.


> Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 13:13:10 -0500:
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Matthew Garrett <> wrote:
>> > The SGA contains the following:
>> >
>> > "Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and conditions
>> > of this Agreement, You hereby grant to the Foundation and to
>> > recipients of software distributed by the Foundation a perpetual,
>> > worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable
>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of,
>> > publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute
>> > Your Contributions and such derivative works."
>> >
>> > and similar language for patents. Is a checkout of code from an Apache
>> > svn repository considered "software distributed by the Foundation", even
>> > if said code is in an unreleased branch?
>> >
>> By way of background, this is recurring question that has come up with
>> OpenOffice.  What is the status of code that has been contributed to
>> the ASF by SGA, but but yet been taken through an Podling release, or
>> IP Clearance and a normal release.  In that intermediate stage, what
>> do we say about the ability of others to use the code?
>> IMHO, we can say little or nothing.  How could we if it has not get
>> gone through a release?  The release via our due diligence and vote is
>> the mechanism that we (the ASF, via a PMC) use to make a firm
>> statement about code.
>> -Rob
>> > Thanks,
>> > --
>> > Matthew Garrett |
>> >
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