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From Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: To IP Clearance? or not?
Date Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:47:22 GMT
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:38 PM, David Nalley <david@gnsa.us> wrote:
> Hi folks:
> CloudStack is currently discussing adding some code which includes
> some chunks of 3rd party code that is licensed under ALv2. [1]
> Essentialy the situation is:
> * Developer found some ALv2 code that fit a specific need from a
> non-ASF open source project that is in the same space.
> * Developer modified that code to work in CloudStack
> * Developer submitted that for review/inclusion, at which point
> someone noted the Copyright attributions and our discussion began.
> * If accepted (and I think the assumption is that it would be) the
> code would be included in the CloudStack codebase and distributed in
> future CloudStack releases.
> * The total line count is around 1500 lines of code that wasn't
> developed specifically for CloudStack

The issue here is the absolute requirements that all code
contributions be _voluntary_. The policy has been that ' very small'
bits of code under 'category A' licenses can be committed, but, if
it's larger than small, it must be actively contributes by its author.
Whether we need IP clearance is again a matter of judgement based on

It strikes me as too big to be collected without active participation
from the author, but I leave it to others to comment on whether it's
big enough to require full IP clearance.

> We are seeking clarity around whether or not IP Clearance is needed
> for the body of code that came from the other project. (We've had a
> plethora of IP Clearance requests of late, and as much as it appears
> that we are fascinated with them, we really aren't looking to
> unnecessarily add to our burden, yet at the same time we don't want to
> shirk our responsibilities either)
> Reading content like this:
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#import
> And this sentence from the Incubator's IP Clearance page:
> "From time to time, an external codebase is brought into the ASF that
> is not a separate incubating project but still represents a
> substantial contribution that was not developed within the ASF's
> source control system and on our public mailing lists"
> All seem to suggest that IP Clearance is the method for bringing in
> third party code.
> At the same time - the docs are mainly centered around code donations
> - and this is not one of those situations in that the authors and
> copyright holders are not involved in the proposed inclusion.
> We've discussed this briefly with one of our mentors who suggested
> bringing the discussion here for clarity.
> Thoughts, comments, flames?
> --David
> [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-cloudstack-dev/201301.mbox/%3C81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD21014183070752%40LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net%3E
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