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From Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: Clarification of "distribution" under the SGA
Date Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:31:45 GMT
Anything you can download from one of our public servers
counts as a distribution.  However anything other than
an actual release should be viewed as a "work in progress"
with no promises about the legal status or overall quality
of the workother than that we have the right to distribute it.


HTH



>________________________________
> From: Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
>To: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> 
>Cc: legal-discuss@apache.org; Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org> 
>Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:28 PM
>Subject: Re: Clarification of "distribution" under the SGA
> 
>On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>> Is there a concrete instance of this question you guys are interested in?
>>
>
>The question is in the context of IBM's SGA for Symphony, where the
>code is now in the SVN of the OpenOffice project.
>
>But, if you mean has anyone with a genuine interest in using the code
>come forward and asked, then no, this has been hypothetical as far as
>I can tell.  Matt can speak for himself.
>
>-Rob
>
>> Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 13:13:10 -0500:
>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
wrote:
>>> > The SGA contains the following:
>>> >
>>> > "Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and conditions
>>> > of this Agreement, You hereby grant to the Foundation and to
>>> > recipients of software distributed by the Foundation a perpetual,
>>> > worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable
>>> > copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of,
>>> > publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute
>>> > Your Contributions and such derivative works."
>>> >
>>> > and similar language for patents. Is a checkout of code from an Apache
>>> > svn repository considered "software distributed by the Foundation", even
>>> > if said code is in an unreleased branch?
>>> >
>>>
>>> By way of background, this is recurring question that has come up with
>>> OpenOffice.  What is the status of code that has been contributed to
>>> the ASF by SGA, but but yet been taken through an Podling release, or
>>> IP Clearance and a normal release.  In that intermediate stage, what
>>> do we say about the ability of others to use the code?
>>>
>>> IMHO, we can say little or nothing.  How could we if it has not get
>>> gone through a release?  The release via our due diligence and vote is
>>> the mechanism that we (the ASF, via a PMC) use to make a firm
>>> statement about code.
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > --
>>> > Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org
>>> >
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