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From Martin van den Bemt <mll...@mvdb.net>
Subject Re: Customer reference in NOTICE
Date Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:49:39 GMT
Besides legal questions, I think the question is merely if we want this to
happen at the ASF.

Why aren't all other companies in there that are paying people to also work
on open source ?
How is possible that a company requires the ASF to put it in the source
repository. Isn't this a community decision ?
You actually made a specific branch to work on this code, which we can
based on the information I have see as a vendor branch ?
Why is this investment worth more than investments of other companies in
the various projects of the ASF. I can name a lot of companies without
their name in the NOTICE file which at least should receive the same

It could be that my worry that a line is getting crossed here is based on
incorrect or incomplete information or that the spirit of these kind of
things have changed during my "inactivity". Based on what I learned here
more than 10 years ago from the "ASF veterans", this just doesn't feel


2012/11/21 Francesco Chicchiriccò <ilgrosso@apache.org>

> Hi,
> in Syncope we have been discussing [1] about some aspects related to our
> NOTICE file and wed like to ask your opinion about this.
> A part of my current work for Syncope is actually paid by one of my
> customers that is actually financed in turn by SURFnet.
> They explicitly required that such code has to be part of the official
> Syncope repository and releases and are also asking to include in the
> NOTICE file the following extract:
> Portions of this software are developed by the support of the SURF, the
> higher education and research partnership organization for Information and
> Communications Technology (ICT) in The Netherlands.  For more information
> about SURF, please visit www.surf.nl.
> They have also provided a previous reference [2] in Apache Rave, for
> which they have signed a corporate CLA [3] and software grant [4].
> Do you see any issue with this? Is this fine, provided that they sign
> another grant for Syncope?
> Thanks for your support.
> Regards.
> [1] http://markmail.org/message/ux6xpt332uoqfjdq
> [2]
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/rave/donations/surfconext-portal/coin-portal/trunk/NOTICE
> [3] http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt
> [4] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> --
> Francesco Chicchiriccò
> ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member
> http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
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