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From "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <seba.wag...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Writing a correct NOTICE file for Apache OpenMeetings
Date Fri, 18 May 2012 06:57:16 GMT
Hi Kevan,

thanks for your detailed answer!

About your concerns:
Our SVN trunk only contains a single JAR:
=> ivy-2.2.0.jar<http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/trunk/singlewebapp/lib/ivy-2.2.0.jar>
The rest is loaded dynamically with Ivy.
The nuSOAP library is already removed, at least from those plugins that we
want to release:
However the PHP plugins are only to integrate OpenMeetings. We do not have
to release them right now.
Red5 itself is released under Apache License 2.0 since r4309:
Packages of the Red5 server since 1.0 RC1 contain also the Apache License
2.0 file.
MySQL JDBC driver will be removed from our package that we will propose as


2012/5/18 Kevan Miller <kevan.miller@gmail.com>

> On May 17, 2012, at 11:48 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > we are trying to build our first release as Apache OpenMeetings in ASFs
> Incubator.
> > We need to write a proper NOTICE file.
> > From the guide
> >
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#best-practice-license
> >
> > I did understood that only Non-Apache licensed files need to be
> documentated in the NOTICE file.
> Hi Seba,
> I'm not sure how literal you intend the above statement to be. You may
> need to document Apache licensed files in your NOTICE file.
> You do not need to reproduce the ASF specific portions of their NOTICE
> file. Using http://www.apache.org/licenses/example-NOTICE.txt as an
> example, your NOTICE file should not include:
>   Apache HTTP Server
>   Copyright 1999-2006 The Apache Software Foundation
>   This product includes software developed at
>   The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
> But should include the remainder of their NOTICE.
> For AL v2 licensed files not released by the ASF, you should reproduce
> their NOTICE (if they have one), as it applies to your redistribution.
> For files not under an apache license, you may need to put information in
> your NOTICE file, if their license requires it. If not required by their
> license, you should not put anything in the NOTICE.
> > However I see from other Apache Releases that also Apache Licensed 3th
> party library needs to have a proper License file shipped with every
> release.
> > Compared here:
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis2/java/core/tags/v1.6.2/legal/
> > a lot of files, all the same content: Apache License 2.0
> >
> > Do we really need to ship a separated file for every library even if it
> is Apache License 2.0 and no additional "Notice" is required ?
> No. Most projects (as the incubator documentation you refer to directs)
> put their licenses into a single LICENSE file. Each license need only
> appear once in this LICENSE file. The LICENSE file should indicate which
> file(s) each of the licenses apply to…
> Some projects have packaged the licenses into a legal/ or licenses/
> directory. In this case, the LICENSE file should refer to this directory
> and, in some manner, you must document which files each license applies to.
> It looks like axis2 did this/attempted to do this by created multiple
> license files (many of which contain the same license) and named the
> license files in a way which should indicate what file they're associated
> with.
> Personally, I prefer a single LICENSE file, but seems like either format
> can be correct (I'm not sure how successful Axis2 was).
> On a separate note, I took a look at your svn. You have a boatload of
> "binary" files in your svn (275 jar files and I don't recognize some of the
> suffixes on other files). At best this practice is frowned upon, and at
> worst is against ASF policy (I'm not sure if this is official policy or
> just strongly held opinion). Regardless, you should be planning on removing
> them.
> I also see some GPL (mysql, red5) and LGPL (nusoap) files. I assume these
> have been noted and will be removed during the course of your incubation?
> --kevan
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Sebastian Wagner

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