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To: "legal-discuss@apache.org" In-Reply-To: <027801ccef20$970bd9f0$c5238dd0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Usually a document is being read top-down, means if you open it, you will FIRST see what license is being used. Being aware of the license is very important, thus it's at the start of the document. Also almost all editors nowadays allow to automatically collapse comments. So I'd see no reason to change anything. LieGrue, strub ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lawrence Rosen > To: legal-discuss@apache.org > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 5:07 PM > Subject: RE: License footer? > > Jukka Zitting suggested: >> So I wonder if it would be OK to use a license footer instead of a >> header in source files where such an arrangement makes more sense, >> i.e. put the license info at the *end* of a file. Such files could >> still start with a one-line comment like "// Licensed under the Apache >> License, Version 2.0. See footer for details." for people who expect >> to find license info at the beginning of a file. > > It sounds good to me. /Larry > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitting@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:33 AM >> To: Legal Discuss >> Subject: License footer? >> >> Hi, >> >> Our policy [1] says that "Each source file should include the >> following license header ..." >> >> Inspired the discussion in [2] and my recent work with languages that >> don't put dozens of lines of import statements and other less >> interesting stuff at the beginning of a source file, I started >> questioning [3] the practice of putting such license notes as headers >> at the *beginning* of all source files. The result of this practice is >> that whenever you open a source file in a non-folding editor or >> browser, you start by scrolling down to find the actual source code. >> It would be nicer if the most frequently accessed content (i.e. the >> actual source) was right there at the beginning if the file. >> >> So I wonder if it would be OK to use a license footer instead of a >> header in source files where such an arrangement makes more sense, >> i.e. put the license info at the *end* of a file. Such files could >> still start with a one-line comment like "// Licensed under the Apache >> License, Version 2.0. See footer for details." for people who expect >> to find license info at the beginning of a file. >> >> WDYT? >> >> [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html >> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-124 >> [3] https://twitter.com/#!/jukkaz/status/169068322611146753 >> >> BR, >> >> Jukka Zitting >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org