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From "Lawrence Rosen (Commented) (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-120) Is the Adobe RTMP specification license compatible?
Date Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:02:39 GMT

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Lawrence Rosen commented on LEGAL-120:

I agree generally with Roy's comments. Here is Adobe's own *plain language* interpretation
of their specification license:

"The RTMP specification document (above) and license cover the RTMP protocol only. They do
not include information or license around any other Flash Media Server technology. By downloading
the RTMP specification, you are agreeing to the RTMP license. To benefit customers who want
to protect their content, the open RTMP specification does not include Adobe's unique secure
RTMP measures, nor does the license that accompanies the specification allow developers to
circumvent such measures. However, developers will be free to use their own technological
measures to secure content. The RTMP specification does not provide any requirement or restrictions
on a developer's own measures to secure content."

The "Prohibited Uses" (i.e., circumvention of DRM) are not uses in which ASF itself will ever
participate, but we obviously cannot vouch for downstream users. We should probably include
something about this in the NOTICE file.

My only concerns about this specification license are its precise definitions of "Essential
Claim" and "Compliant Implementation" which are not as broad as we tried to make their equivalents
in the Open Web Foundation Agreement. But they are typical of such patent grants from commercial

> Is the Adobe RTMP specification license compatible?
> ---------------------------------------------------
>                 Key: LEGAL-120
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-120
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Sebb
> Someone has asked for a RTMP plugin for JMeter. 
> The RTMP specification is available from [0]; the specification license is here [1].
> AIUI the license must be accepted before any implementation is distributed, so I assume
> - any implementation created by the ASF using the spec would need to abide by the license,
> - any 3rd party implementation that used the spec would also need to abide by the license.
> Are there any terms in the license that are unacceptable for the ASF?
> [0] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/rtmp.html
> [1] http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/rtmp/pdf/rtmp_specification_license_1.0.pdf

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