Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 373B675D0 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18849 invoked by uid 500); 11 Dec 2011 20:13:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 18648 invoked by uid 500); 11 Dec 2011 20:13:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 18634 invoked by uid 99); 11 Dec 2011 20:13:09 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:13:09 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2001.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [140.211.11.116] (HELO hel.zones.apache.org) (140.211.11.116) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:13:00 +0000 Received: from hel.zones.apache.org (hel.zones.apache.org [140.211.11.116]) by hel.zones.apache.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8370D10DDC4 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:12:40 +0000 (UTC) From: "Dennis E. Hamilton (Commented) (JIRA)" To: legal-discuss@apache.org Message-ID: <292768295.62904.1323634360559.JavaMail.tomcat@hel.zones.apache.org> In-Reply-To: <2090213583.39153.1323018939870.JavaMail.tomcat@hel.zones.apache.org> Subject: [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-117) Aggregation of GPL dictionaries with Apache OpenOffice (incubating) binary releases MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-JIRA-FingerPrint: 30527f35849b9dde25b450d4833f0394 [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13167183#comment-13167183 ] Dennis E. Hamilton commented on LEGAL-117: ------------------------------------------ @Sam Ruby Thanks. Those are useful links. There is some question about conflicts with GPL-compatibility in some cases that may not be matters of dual-licensing. With regard to GPL specifically, I suspect there is a way to accomplish this. Now that I see the extent of how writing-aid extensions are created, distributed, bundled, and installed, I agree focus on GPL is important. With the prospect that circumscribed use of GPLed artifacts is not a show-stopper, I am going to look ahead to see exactly how GPL is honored in these derivatives (the major ones are under active maintenance) and how the source versus object question can be resolved in a clean way that leaves no doubt that GPL is dealt with properly. There is a related consideration about where is the "up-stream" for these and how do they come into the hands of Apache OpenOffice for either bundling or availability as downloadable extensions. Since Andrea, for one, seems to have developed a comprehensive OOo-external approach with other Italian contributors, I want to consult them to understand exactly what the development process is and how the relationship with Apache OpenOffice can be kept sanitary. That's a side project, but something is needed. I don't doubt that releasing binaries without writing aids would be a giant fail. (I'm also assuming that not releasing binaries is a bigger fail.) > Aggregation of GPL dictionaries with Apache OpenOffice (incubating) binary releases > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Key: LEGAL-117 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117 > Project: Legal Discuss > Issue Type: Question > Reporter: Andrea Pescetti > > Localized versions of OpenOffice.org have traditionally included dictionaries (a term used to designate data files for writing aids in general, like spell-checking dictionaries and thesauri) under the GPL license. These dictionaries are provided in the form of data files. > Dictionaries are not a dependency of OpenOffice.org: they are packaged, even in the installer for native builds, as extensions. Any Windows version of OpenOffice.org is shipped as one file, containing separate modules for OpenOffice.org and for each linguistic extension (i.e., the dictionaries). > This is possible because OpenOffice.org dictionaries, as confirmed by the Free Software Foundation in 2007 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=65039 fall in the "mere aggregation" provision of the GPL license http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#MereAggregation > The only remaining issue to be able to include GPL dictionaries in Apache OpenOffice is thus the Apache policy http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html which forbids GPL software from being included in Apache projects; but the rationale for this choice http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html clearly states that "This licensing incompatibility applies only when some Apache project software becomes a derivative work of some GPLv3 software", definitely not the case under discussion. > In light of the above, can Apache OpenOffice include GPL spell-checking dictionaries with its binary releases? -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. 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