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From Graham Lauder <yori...@openoffice.org>
Subject Re: [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-117) Aggregation of GPL dictionaries with Apache OpenOffice (incubating) binary releases
Date Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:34:39 GMT
On Monday 05 Dec 2011 16:21:41 Niclas Hedhman (Commented) (JIRA) wrote:
>     [
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117?page=com.atlassian.jira.pl
> ugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13162572#comme
> nt-13162572 ]
> 
> Niclas Hedhman commented on LEGAL-117:
> --------------------------------------
> 
> Isn't there an option to have the dictionaries to be downloaded on-demand
> from third-party site (such as Maven Central), and present the licensing
> information to the end-user at that point in time?
> 
> This would not only satisfy everything at ASF, but also make the the distro
> size significantly smaller.

That would be diametrically opposed to end users expectation. For instance the 
NLC projects had specific dictionaries that tie in with the UI localisation, 
this amounts to 100+ dictionaries as a default install.  LO users download two 
files depending on language and localisation but both from the same mirror.  
It should be remembered that many of OOo's users are not technical, for many 
even the internet is a challenge.  Bundling or finding a solution that allows 
same is essential.

Cheers
GL

> 
> > Aggregation of GPL dictionaries with Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
> > binary releases
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -----------
> > 
> >                 Key: LEGAL-117
> >                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117
> >             
> >             Project: Legal Discuss
> >          
> >          Issue Type: Question
> >          
> >            Reporter: Andrea Pescetti
> > 
> > Localized versions of OpenOffice.org have traditionally included
> > dictionaries (a term used to designate data files for writing aids in
> > general, like spell-checking dictionaries and thesauri) under the GPL
> > license. These dictionaries are provided in the form of data files.
> > Dictionaries are not a dependency of OpenOffice.org: they are packaged,
> > even in the installer for native builds, as extensions. Any Windows
> > version of OpenOffice.org is shipped as one file, containing separate
> > modules for OpenOffice.org and for each linguistic extension (i.e., the
> > dictionaries). This is possible because OpenOffice.org dictionaries, as
> > confirmed by the Free Software Foundation in 2007
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=65039 fall in the "mere
> > aggregation" provision of the GPL license
> > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#MereAggregation The only
> > remaining issue to be able to include GPL dictionaries in Apache
> > OpenOffice is thus the Apache policy
> > http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html which forbids GPL software
> > from being included in Apache projects; but the rationale for this
> > choice http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html clearly
> > states that "This licensing incompatibility applies only when some
> > Apache project software becomes a derivative work of some GPLv3
> > software", definitely not the case under discussion. In light of the
> > above, can Apache OpenOffice include GPL spell-checking dictionaries
> > with its binary releases?
> 
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