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From Robert Burrell Donkin <rdon...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Source headers and Apache SGA: Is that sufficient permission?
Date Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:38:48 GMT
On 10/13/11 21:41, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
>> <rdonkin@apache.org>  wrote:
>>> On 10/12/11 22:57, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We're taking the contributed OpenOffice code through the IP review.
>>>> One thing we need to do is update the headers in the
>>>> Oracle-contributed source files to reflect the Apache 2.0 license.
>>>> There is some information on this process on the "ASF Source header
>>>> and Copyright Notice" page [1], but I'm having difficulty determining
>>>> whether we can go forward with this yet.
>>>>
>>>> The section on "Source File Headers for Code Developed at the ASF" states:
>>>>
>>>> "1. If the source file is submitted with a copyright notice included
>>>> in it, the copyright owner (or owner's agent) must either:
>>>>
>>>>      1. remove such notices, or
>>>>      2. move them to the NOTICE file associated with each applicable
>>>> project release, or
>>>>      3. provide written permission for the ASF to make such removal or
>>>> relocation of the notices."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But the SGA [2] clearly gives us permission to created derivative
>>>> works.  Does that not include permissions to change headers (of course
>>>> within bounds of the license permitted by the SGA)?
>>>>
>>>> So my question boils down to this:   Does the SGA give us sufficient
>>>> permission (per 3 above) to replace Oracle's headers with the ALv2?
>>>> Or do should we be seeking, in writing, an additional document from
>>>> Oracle.  If the later, do we have a form for this?
>>>
>>> This section concerns copyright notices[1], not license headers[2].
>>>
>>> It's a little involved so I'll explain over on the OOo lists...
>>>
>>
>> OK.  Thanks.   Here's a concrete example, of what we're seeing.  It
>> has a copyright, a disclaimer, a link to the license and a big bold
>> statement that says "don't touch".   What should we do?
>
> If it is one of the files listed by the SGA, then we have permission
> to move the "Copyright 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates." to
> the NOTICE file with an appropriate "Portions of this software were
> contributed by Oracle and" above it.  These headers can then be replaced
> with the standard Apache header.
>
> No, this isn't our normal procedure.  Oracle was in a hurry.  They
> did, on multiple occasions, indicate that this is what Oracle wants.

Thanks :-)

Robert

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