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From "Sam Ruby (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-93) Contributions from the US Federal Goverment
Date Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:15:59 GMT

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Sam Ruby commented on LEGAL-93:
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Tim: the beauty of a FAQ is that it doesn't need to answer all possible questions, it just
needs to answer the questions it does pose well.

Larry proposed a great start.  A few comments:

We don't require an ICLA for every contribution.  Small patches via mailing lists and bug
tracking systems are fine.  We *may* require an ICLA for a substantial (set of) contribution(s).
 We *always* require an ICLA before you can be assigned and Apache ID and become a committer.
 Answering that specific question (do we require ICLAs from employees of the Federal Government
before they can become a committer) may be all that is required to address that part of Doug's
original question.

I also think that we don't need to mention a CCLA here.  Does anybody read section 4 of the
ICLA as requiring one in this circumstance? 

Going back to the original question, Doug mentioned a Software Grant.  While I agree that
a Software Grant is unlikely to be needed in this case, what documentation can be captured
now which can be used down the road to establish provenance?  If there is a concrete proposal
that satisfies this need, I doubt that there will be any push back.

Finally, I'm not sure that this question is yet a _frequently_ asked question.  Until then,
perhaps this JIRA issue will suffice?

> Contributions from the US Federal Goverment
> -------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-93
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-93
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Doug Cutting
>
> Some folks who work for the US federal government want to contribute a codebase to Apache,
through the Incubator.  The US government is not permitted to claim copyright over works it
creates.  The Incubator requires a CCLA or Software Grant for codebases brought to Apache.
 Both of these forms require that the author grant a copyright license to Apache, but I don't
see how this is possible when the author is the US Government, which does not hold copyright.
 What's our process in this case?
> Similarly, how can an employee of the US Federal Government file an ICLA, since that
also requires a grant of copyright license?

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