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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <g...@pobox.com>
Subject Re: Urgent help Needed with LGPL library used in Apache Isis - (was: Re: [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-81) Is it ok/meaningful to have a dependency licensed as ASL just for Apache Software Foundation, but LGPL for anyone else?)
Date Wed, 01 Jun 2011 09:31:12 GMT
Just because it's a pet peeve, and if we can't get it right, no one else will...

It's the "AL", not the "ASL".  There's no "Software" in the name of the Apache License

geir

On Jun 1, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:

> Thats the problem, it is not licensed nor dual licensed under ASL, he
> has only replied to an e-mail sent by Isis team that he agrees to dual
> license this library under ASL besides LGPL, which is not enough IMHO,
> and thats the problem.
> 
> It seems that Isis team decided to take another approach and use
> jQuery instead. But I really want to thank you all for your precious
> feedback which enriched my information about using different licenses,
> and I agree it is not an easy task to do :D.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> OK - but if it is licensed under the Apache license why would a software grant be
required?  You can use his work under the terms of the license.  He isn't donating the code
base to the ASF.
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>> On May 31, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> 
>>> Kevan,
>>> 
>>> It's in a scripting language. There is no binary. The source is being
>>> incorporated into an Apache product.
>>> 
>>> If the author publishes it on a web site somewhere under an AL, then I
>>> agree that no grant is needed, but, otherwise, iCLA or SGA.
>>> 
>>> --benson
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Kevan Miller <kevan.miller@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On May 31, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all...
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Please help in what is explained below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brief:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   1- In Apache Isis [1], we are using an XmlHttpRequest library [2]
>>>>> which is currently licensed under LGPL.
>>>>>   2- The main developer of that library has sent us an e-mail [3]
>>>>> saying that he agrees on dual licensing it under ASL v2.0.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The question is:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is that enough, or we need him to file an SGA ? Provided that till
>>>>> this moment he didn't update the library's web site to indicate that
>>>>> dual licensing.
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>>> I see no reason for an SGA. The XmlHttpRequest library is *not* being donated
to the ASF, correct? And you won't be using XmlHttpRequest source code in Isis? XmlHttpRequest
will now be distributed under a dual-license (without restrictions).
>>>> 
>>>> So, IMO Isis should start using the new binary, the Isis LICENSE file should
be updated with the XmlHttpRequest dual license, and the LICENSE file should note that Isis
chooses the AL v2 license. I'd think that is all that is needed.
>>>> 
>>>> --kevan
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> 
> 
> 
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> - Mohammad Nour
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