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From Ross Gardler <rgard...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Advice on how to address an objection to our CCLA
Date Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:42:25 GMT
On 04/03/2011 15:40, Ralph Goers wrote:
> Note the wording on http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas. All
> committers must submit an ICLA. For a corporation that has assigned
> employees to work on an Apache project, a Corporate CLA (CCLA) is
> available.

You know I completely missed that. It's so long since I read that page I 
go straight to the CLA docs assuming I know what they are for.

Time for me to go back to basics for me.

Thanks.

Ross

>
> When the individual signs the ICLA they are saying that they have the
> right to commit everything they commit.  If the individual commits
> something they had no right to it will need to be removed no matter
> whether it was their employers or someone else's.  If the individual
> has verbal assurance from their boss that they can commit but then
> they get a new boss or some other change occurs the individual is at
> somewhat of a risk.  The CCLA protects the individual from that
> happening.  It isn't required that all committers submit one but does
> protect those who can get their employer to do so.  If the
> corporation doesn't submit a CCLA than the burden falls on the
> committer and their ICLA.
>
> Ralph
>
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:09 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>
>> An employer of a potential committer feels unable to sign the CCLA.
>> I'm wondering how best to address this with their legal
>> department.
>>
>> Their issue is with Section 5:
>>
>> "You represent that each of Your Contributions is Your original
>> creation (see section 7 for submissions on behalf of others)."
>>
>> The concern is that the employer does not feel able to make this
>> assertion. They feel that they would have to establish and enact
>> procedures to carry out their own due diligence before being able
>> to do so.
>>
>> Any suggestions about how I might alleviate their concerns?
>>
>> The employer is willing to allow their employee to sign the ICLA
>> and contribute without a CCLA. Assuming the employer owns copyright
>> I believe this is not possible, is that correct?
>>
>> Ross
>>
>>
>> -- rgardler@apache.org @rgardler
>>
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