Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 348 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2011 06:03:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Jan 2011 06:03:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 80138 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jan 2011 06:03:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 79715 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jan 2011 06:03:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 79708 invoked by uid 99); 22 Jan 2011 06:03:55 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:03:55 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.50 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.213.50] (HELO mail-yw0-f50.google.com) (209.85.213.50) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:03:49 +0000 Received: by ywc21 with SMTP id 21so388171ywc.23 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:03:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mnSUCM++F/FquMgPL53Tq52oeOMFg32cpQB9PXqHTMg=; b=T5P83vVaWjP24H1RUgABh4qAw830Rz569hcl+9T31JcaJBu42QuLvvDPv5Egdnkcfj pmofbC5HZ12NymEG2zOCWMW1sqOR2jJ+SQLHwNEE8O8pB+2JbEfLBnODAndCrSxMG2uM Xl9RmLg6Dik7szFP6CdS3tVR6CdepwHrRXP54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hRHael1RFwgLU/z3yszVk3ljlLM45lx3R0X60+Kmiin6GLl+QGAG7TfG+kOu7Us4n0 eWoSWnEuL3zHhNWR4HAnNZKj2dP/XFN4vyE0e4mK4iwsMniNT9PDdpGesMws/szI2bTm /qQrJz+5fz/3opmma6NfSIK8Jc5fAqFx96n6Y= Received: by 10.150.206.17 with SMTP id d17mr1797414ybg.299.1295676208534; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:03:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.34.2 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:02:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D3A6B05.9020501@rowe-clan.net> References: <4D3A6B05.9020501@rowe-clan.net> From: Paul Davis Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 01:02:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something to review/refute/ignore To: legal-discuss@apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org The progression has been such: First this showed up early this morning: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/oops-android-contains-directly-copied-ja= va-code-strengthening/ Then late this afternoon: http://m.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/oops-no-copied-java-code-or-weapons-of-mas= s-destruction-found-in-android/2162 Which basically outlines that the "copied source code" was accidental by Google and never distributed. It also makes some observations that the original report was by someone who is neither a lawyer or developer and had no real expertise to comment on random source code issues. Then some other random person had this to say: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/android-source-code-java-and-copyright-i= nfringement-whats-go/ Which basically asserts that it doesn't matter if it was an accident, it was a violation so its all crazy and a judge must be involved to make a decision. All three links are from Gruber's twitter feed and I'll quote his quote: As the saying goes, =93A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.=94 [1, 2] I'm not too familiar on the fine details of the whole issue, but this particular story arc happened fairly quickly throughout the day. So far my favorite quote from this particular bit of press could be paraphrased like "Why the hell would Google pay $6 billion for Groupon after not buying Sun for $5 billion?" (forget where I saw that) [1] http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/01/21/android-copied-code [2] http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Twain#Truth On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:28 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > From our good friend Florian, who reappears in a grand^@newsbreaking flou= rish; > > http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/01/21/164209/Does-Google-Pin-Copyright-= Violations-On-the-ASF > > Just thought everyone should be aware of the dynamic, although let's > please not discuss non-copyright/IP/Legal dynamics on this list. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org