From legal-discuss-return-6028-apmail-legal-discuss-archive=apache.org@apache.org Sun Nov 07 03:34:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 57932 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2010 03:34:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 7 Nov 2010 03:34:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 42074 invoked by uid 500); 7 Nov 2010 03:35:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 41640 invoked by uid 500); 7 Nov 2010 03:35:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 41616 invoked by uid 99); 7 Nov 2010 03:35:08 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 03:35:08 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of spamassassin@dostech.ca designates 207.164.80.200 as permitted sender) Received: from [207.164.80.200] (HELO mail.csolve.net) (207.164.80.200) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 03:35:00 +0000 Received: from cpe687f741b330b-cm001692fb3602.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([99.251.172.93] helo=dilbert.dostech.net) by mail.csolve.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1PEw1d-000MZd-DR for legal-discuss@apache.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2010 23:34:37 -0400 Received: from [10.145.1.112] ([10.145.1.112]) by dilbert.dostech.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oA73YBOn016671 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 23:34:24 -0400 Message-ID: <4CD61E2F.7030509@dostech.ca> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 23:34:07 -0400 From: "Daryl C. W. O'Shea" Organization: DOS Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: legal-discuss@apache.org Subject: Re: Fair-use data in svn References: <4CD3FAF0.8070909@apache.org> <201011050923.59468.dkulp@apache.org> <8464985691162832135@unknownmsgid> <0ad301cb7cfd$b93e2960$2bba7c20$@com> <0bd101cb7e25$c7245d50$556d17f0$@com> <568185.10720.qm@web54408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Id: dos On 06/11/2010 11:21 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >> The SpamAsssassin stuff lives in a virtual host provided >> by Apache. That is how I would go about acquiring the >> copyrighted content without redistributing it to anyone >> other than those with an account on the virtual host. > > How do we decide who gets an account? In our case it's been mainly PMC members or a couple of committers we trust not to screw things up.... which is pretty much the entire project (we're pretty small). There's about a dozen people with access and I don't think we've every turned anyone down for an account (or felt the need to). >>> From: Benson Margulies >>> infringement? The spamassasin example seems apposite, and I wish that >>> Daryl would give more details about where the ham is kept and who has >>> access to it, and what legal determination went into setting up the >>> whole business. As Joe noted some of the ham is on the virtual host provided by Apache. The majority of it, though, is kept by the "owners", well recipients, of the ham on their own personal hosts. Our mass-check software (that generates log files of what anti-spam rules match against ham/spam messages identified by message ID or mailbox filename) is run against the ham/spam corpora either on people's personal hosts or on the Apache hosted virtual server every night. The only reason we have some ham/spam on the Apache hosted virtual machine is for the people who do not have access to their own CPU cycles for doing this analysis every night (it's quite CPU intensive as we run SpamAssassin against millions of messages on a much larger ruleset than what is published for general use). Daryl --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org