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From "Lawrence Rosen" <lro...@rosenlaw.com>
Subject RE: "All rights reserved"
Date Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:32:02 GMT
Hi McCoy,

 

Glad to see you still lurking here! :-)  

 

I completely agree with the article: "All rights reserved" has no legal
significance anymore.

 

Best regards, /Larry

 

 

 

From: Smith, McCoy [mailto:mccoy.smith@intel.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:11 AM
To: legal-discuss@apache.org
Subject: RE: "All rights reserved"

 

Here is an article on this phrase (by a European lawyer who often writes on
open source legal issues);  it is pretty much sursplusage (aka "chaff"):
http://www.iusmentis.com/copyright/allrightsreserved/

I'm sure Larry Rosen might have thoughts on this.

 

 

From: Jennifer O'Neill [mailto:jennifer626@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 5:33 PM
To: legal-discuss@apache.org
Subject: Re: "All rights reserved"

 

I thought this issue rang a bell:
http://www.mail-archive.com/derby-dev@db.apache.org/msg00510.html


Bill is right that a copyright owner that has granted a license to use its
IP still reserves the rights inherent in ownership, as compared against a
party that has assigned its intellectual property rights in their entirety
to someone else.  The phrase "all rights reserved" represents that concept,
without changing those license rights.  As noted previously, it's generally
not necessary to repeat this phrase in the U.S. and most of North America
and South America, but it still has legal meaning in other countries.  Any
owners making worldwide distribution of their works are better off retaining
it, for the avoidance of doubt.

 

Cheers,

 

Jennifer

 

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 7:44 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. <wrowe@apache.org>
wrote:

On 3/28/2010 6:32 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
> It's common to see:
>
> *****
> Copyright <Year> <Blah>. All Rights Reserved.
>
> <Licensing of rights to recipient of package>
> ******
>
>
> When including the copyright header in a NOTICE file, what thoughts
> are there on whether we should include the "All Rights Reserved"
> statement? It seems misleading/confusing to be saying that and putting
> the license in LICENSE.
>
> If we have a license to redistribute something - the rights aren't
> reserved. Can we delete it as a piece of bad text?

Yes they are reserved.

The LICENSE offers specific rights, under specific terms.



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