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From Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ASF Board Meeting Summary - December 16, 2009
Date Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:11:06 GMT
Quite possibly!

Tho has it been using "Pivot" or "Apache Pivot"? And how long has msft
been using their "Pivot" (unregistered) mark?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:51, Todd Volkert <tvolkert@gmail.com> wrote:
> IANAL by any stretch of the imagination, but doesn't the fact that we've
> been in incubation since Jan '09 mean that we've been using an unregistered
> trademark on the project name and give us some ground on which to stand
> here?
> -T
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Apparently, Microsoft applied for a trademark on "Pivot" at the end of
>> October. That effectively puts the project on a collision course.
>> Legal can more definitively provide thoughts on this (for example,
>> maybe being strict about using "Apache Pivot" can steer us clear).
>>
>> It was also mentioned during the meeting that approaching Microsoft is
>> an option, to see whether they will take issue with our use of
>> "Pivot". They may also say there is no problem with "Apache Pivot",
>> but that they'll get huffy if there is ever a bare reference to
>> "Pivot".
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -g
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:06, Greg Brown <gkbrown@mac.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> > Based on some earlier discussion, it was our understanding that no
>> > further
>> > action was required regarding the Pivot project name; see this thread on
>> > legal-discuss (I haven't been able to locate the follow-up discussion on
>> > the
>> > trademarks list):
>> >
>> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200912.mbox/%3c168ef9ac0912031848w1996bbfp21913c2ec669e61b@mail.gmail.com%3e
>> > However, based on the attached board meeting summary, it seems as though
>> > this may have changed. If so, what are the current issues, and what are
>> > the
>> > next steps?
>> > Thanks for your help,
>> > Greg Brown
>> >
>> > Begin forwarded message:
>> >
>> > From: Jim Jagielski <jim@apache.org>
>> > Date: December 17, 2009 8:15:52 AM EST
>> > To: committers@apache.org
>> > Subject: ASF Board Meeting Summary - December 16, 2009
>> >
>> > The December board meeting took place on the 16th. The following
>> > directors
>> > were present:
>> >
>> >  Shane Curcuru
>> >  Doug Cutting
>> >  Justin Erenkrantz
>> >  Roy T. Fielding
>> >  Jim Jagielski
>> >  Geir Magnusson, Jr.
>> >  Brett Porter
>> >  Greg Stein
>> >
>> > and the following guests/officers were present:
>> >
>> >  Sam Ruby
>> >  J Aaron Farr
>> >  Craig L Russell
>> >  Gavin McDonald
>> >
>> > All of the received reports to the board were approved. The following
>> > reports were not received and are expected next month:
>> >
>> >  Status report for the Apache iBATIS Project
>> >  Status report for the Apache Santuario Project
>> >  Status report for the Apache Web Services Project
>> >
>> > The following resolutions were passed unaminously:
>> >
>> >  A. Establish the Apache Pivot Project (Greg Brown, VP)
>> >      The PMC is tasked to work with the Branding Cmmt and the
>> >      Legal Cmmt regarding the use of the name 'Pivot' due to
>> >      potential conflict.
>> >
>> >  B. Establish the Apache OpenWebBeans Project (Gurkan Erdogdu, VP)
>> >
>> >  C. Appoint a Vice President of W3C Relations (Sam Ruby)
>> >
>> >  D. Establish the Apache Axis Project (Glen Daniels, VP)
>> >      The PMC should be aware that the name of the PMC was changed
>> >      from 'Axis2' to 'Axis' and that the PMC is tasked with the
>> >      responsibility for Axis1 and shepherding its transition to
>> >      the Attic.
>> >
>> > The next board meeting will be on the 20th of January.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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