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From Mark Miller <markrmil...@apache.org>
Subject Re: ASF Board Meeting Summary - December 16, 2009
Date Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:09:06 GMT
Apache's TM attorney is either ridiculously cranky or has a delightful
sense of humor. I'm not sure which myself.

- Mark

Todd Volkert wrote:
> Didn't mean to offend, Larry - just trying to figure this situation out.
>
> -T
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Lawrence Rosen <lrosen@rosenlaw.com
> <mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com>> wrote:
>
>     WTF?
>
>     
>
>     ASF already has a trademark attorney. Me. Please tell your
>     trademark lawyer friend to mind his own business. Say it
>     politely. I'm sure his opinion wasn't meant to contradict
>     mineā€”but it does.
>
>     
>
>     Did you or he write that absurd opinion on an Apple (TM)
>     computer. Using Windows (TM)?
>
>     
>
>     /Larry
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>     
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>     
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>     
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>     *From:* Todd Volkert [mailto:tvolkert@gmail.com
>     <mailto:tvolkert@gmail.com>]
>     *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:50 AM
>
>     *To:* legal-discuss@apache.org <mailto:legal-discuss@apache.org>
>     *Cc:* trademarks@apache.org <mailto:trademarks@apache.org>
>     *Subject:* Re: ASF Board Meeting Summary - December 16, 2009
>
>     
>
>     Just talked to a trademark lawyer friend of mine, and he
>     emphasized that you can't trademark a common word in the English
>     language (like "Pivot") - you can trademark a sequence of words,
>     like "Microsoft Pivot", a graphic, a jingle, etc.  So what
>     exactly did MS trademark -- "Microsoft Pivot"?  If so, then I'd
>     think we're in the clear to use "Apache Pivot"...
>
>     -T
>
>     On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Greg Brown <gkbrown@mac.com
>     <mailto:gkbrown@mac.com>> wrote:
>
>     FWIW, all of our public communications introduce the project as
>     "Apache Pivot" but often later use the shortened "Pivot" form to
>     avoid unnecessary verbosity. Not sure if this is relevant, but I
>     thought I would mention it.
>
>     
>
>     On Dec 17, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Todd Volkert wrote:
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>     
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>         Tho has it been using "Pivot" or "Apache Pivot"? And how
>         long has msft
>         been using their "Pivot" (unregistered) mark?
>
>
>     It's been "Apache Pivot".  As far as I can tell, Microsoft only
>     publicly announced their Pivot project in late November '09.
>
>     Forgive my ignorance, but what's the process towards getting
>     this resolved?  It stands to reason that we shouldn't migrate
>     our infrastructure and such until we make sure that we're ok to
>     keep the name "Apache Pivot", but how is that determination made?
>
>     -T
>
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