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From Todd Volkert <tvolk...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ASF Board Meeting Summary - December 16, 2009
Date Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:51:28 GMT
IANAL by any stretch of the imagination, but doesn't the fact that we've
been in incubation since Jan '09 mean that we've been using an unregistered
trademark on the project name and give us some ground on which to stand
here?

-T

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:

> Apparently, Microsoft applied for a trademark on "Pivot" at the end of
> October. That effectively puts the project on a collision course.
> Legal can more definitively provide thoughts on this (for example,
> maybe being strict about using "Apache Pivot" can steer us clear).
>
> It was also mentioned during the meeting that approaching Microsoft is
> an option, to see whether they will take issue with our use of
> "Pivot". They may also say there is no problem with "Apache Pivot",
> but that they'll get huffy if there is ever a bare reference to
> "Pivot".
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:06, Greg Brown <gkbrown@mac.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Based on some earlier discussion, it was our understanding that no
> further
> > action was required regarding the Pivot project name; see this thread on
> > legal-discuss (I haven't been able to locate the follow-up discussion on
> the
> > trademarks list):
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200912.mbox/%3c168ef9ac0912031848w1996bbfp21913c2ec669e61b@mail.gmail.com%3e
> > However, based on the attached board meeting summary, it seems as though
> > this may have changed. If so, what are the current issues, and what are
> the
> > next steps?
> > Thanks for your help,
> > Greg Brown
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Jim Jagielski <jim@apache.org>
> > Date: December 17, 2009 8:15:52 AM EST
> > To: committers@apache.org
> > Subject: ASF Board Meeting Summary - December 16, 2009
> >
> > The December board meeting took place on the 16th. The following
> directors
> > were present:
> >
> >  Shane Curcuru
> >  Doug Cutting
> >  Justin Erenkrantz
> >  Roy T. Fielding
> >  Jim Jagielski
> >  Geir Magnusson, Jr.
> >  Brett Porter
> >  Greg Stein
> >
> > and the following guests/officers were present:
> >
> >  Sam Ruby
> >  J Aaron Farr
> >  Craig L Russell
> >  Gavin McDonald
> >
> > All of the received reports to the board were approved. The following
> > reports were not received and are expected next month:
> >
> >  Status report for the Apache iBATIS Project
> >  Status report for the Apache Santuario Project
> >  Status report for the Apache Web Services Project
> >
> > The following resolutions were passed unaminously:
> >
> >  A. Establish the Apache Pivot Project (Greg Brown, VP)
> >      The PMC is tasked to work with the Branding Cmmt and the
> >      Legal Cmmt regarding the use of the name 'Pivot' due to
> >      potential conflict.
> >
> >  B. Establish the Apache OpenWebBeans Project (Gurkan Erdogdu, VP)
> >
> >  C. Appoint a Vice President of W3C Relations (Sam Ruby)
> >
> >  D. Establish the Apache Axis Project (Glen Daniels, VP)
> >      The PMC should be aware that the name of the PMC was changed
> >      from 'Axis2' to 'Axis' and that the PMC is tasked with the
> >      responsibility for Axis1 and shepherding its transition to
> >      the Attic.
> >
> > The next board meeting will be on the 20th of January.
> >
> >
> >
>
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