Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 37076 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2009 15:06:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 30 Jun 2009 15:06:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 24382 invoked by uid 500); 30 Jun 2009 14:58:36 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 24156 invoked by uid 500); 30 Jun 2009 14:58:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 24148 invoked by uid 99); 30 Jun 2009 14:58:35 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:58:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of ross.gardler@googlemail.com designates 209.85.219.205 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.219.205] (HELO mail-ew0-f205.google.com) (209.85.219.205) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:58:22 +0000 Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so211944ewy.17 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:58:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8RS6AsCWX7B2Gn0ema6+rileMzRLqRKtTJAtHSsJuKo=; b=GUMccO5MTJlHkluSKGN2UIh7BbtCp87OOG9i2sL7bSXuw1+dXU+6ePyxbR/apOQoTL mSuU9uEPmH9UJzZZHNZPaOlPkq8gsZk7Jj1gYWO/VLh/tkci0IwBT/qpina9as5KXuCa EKJMHWn8WBmLNTzDpsnT8L63v+2rCKOBxEQYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=U473GNJ6RgwIp6vdl2GQHKHMVSWtv7zQpRshER6FlWwzNhzGJ85rU1PV0MlGpCwadu zS42E8zCYTiyd/o5WfUMgks7VTw9jhY7203dWv0jUfNW9A/6pfZQ4KoV8SFFsBMCDaMe 6/bJ/J83MPsiTPi282GcjOT5Axmy2X7MvF4O4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ross.gardler@googlemail.com Received: by 10.216.74.14 with SMTP id w14mr2541959wed.153.1246373120038; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:45:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5c902b9e0906300735v2f2bfeeem297b1f971e4e1699@mail.gmail.com> References: <786269.43797.qm@web58005.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <61c9bc470906300206l79a54a39kbf54555c67ce671c@mail.gmail.com> <61c9bc470906300310v295b4d31q171e9dca1ad090e7@mail.gmail.com> <5c902b9e0906300735v2f2bfeeem297b1f971e4e1699@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:45:19 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 62c559cb364c3b86 Message-ID: <61c9bc470906300745t285f15d0p75f19e59949b11e8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: apache license 2.0: having trouble getting our university licensing office to like it, your thoughts? From: Ross Gardler To: legal-discuss@apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org 2009/6/30 Justin Erenkrantz : > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:10 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: >> 2) US publicly funded work has specific constraints on the way outputs >> are made available for public use, the UK does not have the same >> restrictions. > > Two general comments: > > =A0- Depending upon the grant, certain funding agencies place different > restrictions on what can be released and how it can be released. > > =A0- Academic work product is treated differently from staff work > product. =A0So, for example, folks that Ross would talk primarily to as > part of OSS Watch in UK would be covered under different rules than > say a faculty member on the academic side of things. Just in case it is important to anyone, we deal with research staff as well as IT staff. In the UK universities are funded in such a way that all software production is, effectively, publicly funded (it gets complicated with commercial sponsored research, but that's an edge case). However, as I mentioned earlier the patent clause does not cause a problem for us here in the UK. So it's probably not relevant. Ross --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org