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From Henri Yandell <hyand...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Dead project names
Date Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:57:03 GMT
Why are we unable to restart the project under the same name if we're
allowing multiple others to do so?

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Jim Jagielski <jim@jagunet.com> wrote:
> Agree with Sam, btw
>
> On Feb 27, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Henri Yandell <bayard@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> The Apache Attic exists to retire projects at Apache. Nearly always we
>>> will be happy to see a fork be created by the user base and wish it
>>> all the luck in the world. Ideally it would be able to retain the same
>>> name.
>>>
>>> Personally I would also be quite happy to see a 2nd fork happen,
>>
>> +1
>>
>>> again with the same name
>>
>> +1
>>
>>> as long as they were separately identifiable.
>>
>> +0
>>
>> What concerns me more is that those that use the name never do so in a
>> way that makes it appear as if the derived work is an any way endorsed
>> by the ASF.
>>
>>> Questions for this list:
>>>
>>> * Can we let them use that name? If so, how?
>>
>> Beats me.
>>
>>> * Can we continue to distribute the older versions of the software?
>>> * Can we continue to show the old website?
>>
>> For both of those, I think we need to be able to do so.   Which, taken
>> together with the "non-endorsed" constraint mentioned above, implies
>> "separately identifiable".
>>
>>> * Can we restart the project under the same name?
>>
>> -1.
>>
>>> I'm additionally working with an assumption that Java package names
>>> are not considered a concern. We wouldn't force people making a fork
>>> of our codebase to rename every package/class in the codebase to avoid
>>> a name clash.
>>
>> +1
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Hen
>>
>> - Sam Ruby
>>
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