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From Craig L Russell <Craig.Russ...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: [jira] Created: (LEGAL-40) XmlSchema project wants to check in some annoyingly licensed test cases
Date Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:56:17 GMT
Hi Benson,

I don't think there is a problem. The term "small" appears in this  
context: "For small amounts of source that is directly consumed by the  
ASF product at runtime in source form, and for which that source is  
unmodified and unlikely to be changed anyway (say, by virtue of being  
specified by a standard), inclusion of appropriately labeled source is  
also permitted.".

You're not using the test cases at runtime.

And you're using the BSD license, so the above restriction doesn't  
even apply.

So, I think you're fine. And you're right; once the JIRA was closed  
and resolved, it was, well, closed and resolved.

Craig

On Dec 17, 2008, at 5:25 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:

> Sam,
>
> We may have a problem here.
>
> Based on the fact that the JIRA was closed out and resolved, I went
> ahead and checked in this material. Well, to be precise, I checked in
> about 1/2 of it, the other 1/2 is still checking in.
>
> I notice that the category B text uses the word 'small' when referring
> to materials in source form. While this stuff certainly qualifies
> under all the other caveats there, it does not qualify as small.
>
> If I blew it by not highlighting the size of this, I apologize.
>
> I was under the impression that someone marking a JIRA closed out was,
> in fact, the last word on a matter like this. Do I need to reconsider
> checking this in?
>
> --benson
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>  
> wrote:
>> Just following up (not seeing any other reply)....   this should be
>> treated as "category B".  See
>> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html for details.
>>
>> - Sam Ruby
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Benson Margulies (JIRA)
>> <jira@apache.org> wrote:
>>> XmlSchema project wants to check in some annoyingly licensed test  
>>> cases
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>                Key: LEGAL-40
>>>                URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-40
>>>            Project: Legal Discuss
>>>         Issue Type: Question
>>>           Reporter: Benson Margulies
>>>
>>>
>>> The purpose the the XmlSchema component of the WSCOMMONS project  
>>> is to produce a conformant implementation of Xml Schema. XML  
>>> Schema is a W3C standard. There is a test suite for XML schema  
>>> available from the W3C. The license on the test suite does not  
>>> encourage/permit modifications.
>>>
>>> Currently, the build process for XML Schema dynamically downloads  
>>> these materials. This is annoying but nonfatal. I would like, if  
>>> possible, to just check them in where any contributor can check  
>>> them back out so that the build process can use them without  
>>> latency and / or connectivity requirements.
>>>
>>> I submit for consideration the idea that, as a read-only resource  
>>> (a set of test cases that the XMLSchema code reads), the various  
>>> restrictions on the license do not represent a problem in the way  
>>> that incorporating source code, or data subject to change, might be.
>>>
>>> However, I'm no lawyer and a relative newcomer to ASF.
>>>
>>> Checking this into the PMC area really isn't an improvement over  
>>> the current situation, since it doesn't (so far as I know) allow  
>>> any way for non-PMC members to read the stuff. If I've  
>>> misunderstood and the PMC area can be set up so that PMC members  
>>> put things in and anyone can get them out, I apologize for  
>>> misunderstanding.
>>>
>>> If this won't fly, I'll look for some way to package these items  
>>> as a maven artifact uploaded to central and then that solves most  
>>> of the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The entire contents of this directory and all its sub-directories  
>>> are
>>>        ***Copyright (C) World Wide Web Consortium 2006, 2007***
>>>
>>> They are made available under the terms of the
>>> W3C DOCUMENT NOTICE AND LICENSE,
>>> available online at
>>> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/copyright-documents-19990405.html
>>>
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Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


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