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From "Sam Ruby" <ru...@intertwingly.net>
Subject Re: [jira] Created: (LEGAL-40) XmlSchema project wants to check in some annoyingly licensed test cases
Date Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:57:54 GMT
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sam,
>>
>> We may have a problem here.
>
> It was me that was unclear.  BSD is category A -- no problem.
>
> I also responded before I found Henri's assertion that the W3C license
> is category X.  I question that assertion, and have not responded to
> Henri's email.

s/not/now/

>> Based on the fact that the JIRA was closed out and resolved, I went
>> ahead and checked in this material. Well, to be precise, I checked in
>> about 1/2 of it, the other 1/2 is still checking in.
>>
>> I notice that the category B text uses the word 'small' when referring
>> to materials in source form. While this stuff certainly qualifies
>> under all the other caveats there, it does not qualify as small.
>>
>> If I blew it by not highlighting the size of this, I apologize.
>>
>> I was under the impression that someone marking a JIRA closed out was,
>> in fact, the last word on a matter like this. Do I need to reconsider
>> checking this in?
>
> No.
>
>> --benson
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>>> Just following up (not seeing any other reply)....   this should be
>>> treated as "category B".  See
>>> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html for details.
>>>
>>> - Sam Ruby
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Benson Margulies (JIRA)
>>> <jira@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> XmlSchema project wants to check in some annoyingly licensed test cases
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>                 Key: LEGAL-40
>>>>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-40
>>>>             Project: Legal Discuss
>>>>          Issue Type: Question
>>>>            Reporter: Benson Margulies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The purpose the the XmlSchema component of the WSCOMMONS project is to produce
a conformant implementation of Xml Schema. XML Schema is a W3C standard. There is a test suite
for XML schema available from the W3C. The license on the test suite does not encourage/permit
modifications.
>>>>
>>>> Currently, the build process for XML Schema dynamically downloads these materials.
This is annoying but nonfatal. I would like, if possible, to just check them in where any
contributor can check them back out so that the build process can use them without latency
and / or connectivity requirements.
>>>>
>>>> I submit for consideration the idea that, as a read-only resource (a set
of test cases that the XMLSchema code reads), the various restrictions on the license do not
represent a problem in the way that incorporating source code, or data subject to change,
might be.
>>>>
>>>> However, I'm no lawyer and a relative newcomer to ASF.
>>>>
>>>> Checking this into the PMC area really isn't an improvement over the current
situation, since it doesn't (so far as I know) allow any way for non-PMC members to read the
stuff. If I've misunderstood and the PMC area can be set up so that PMC members put things
in and anyone can get them out, I apologize for misunderstanding.
>>>>
>>>> If this won't fly, I'll look for some way to package these items as a maven
artifact uploaded to central and then that solves most of the problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The entire contents of this directory and all its sub-directories are
>>>>         ***Copyright (C) World Wide Web Consortium 2006, 2007***
>>>>
>>>> They are made available under the terms of the
>>>>  W3C DOCUMENT NOTICE AND LICENSE,
>>>> available online at
>>>> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/copyright-documents-19990405.html
>>>>
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