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From "Benson Margulies" <bimargul...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Use of proprietary binaries
Date Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:28:56 GMT
I semi-hijacked this thread onto the subject of the W3C schema test
cases. The JAR question applies to the original topic of OpenJPA, and
the OP of that will presumably comment.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geir@pobox.com> wrote:
> it's my understanding that this jar is needed to build the project?
>
> On Nov 25, 2008, at 9:49 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>
>> There are plenty of 'open source' license that are unacceptable for
>> materials in Apache repos, so restating the requirement for open
>> source does not strike me as adding much to the content here. Like
>> most discussions on this list, this is about the nuances of what
>> soi-disant open source licenses are acceptable for what Apache
>> purposes.
>>
>> When someone publishes a set of test cases and makes them freely
>> available, freely redistributable, but not freely modifiable, then
>> Hen's proposal is to set up infrastructure to store them read-only.
>>
>> We don't want to modify these. The whole point is to be able to
>> measure compliance against them as they are.
>>
>> As a reductio argument, consider the TCKs. They aren't even remotely
>> 'open source', but we store them in restricted repos because it is
>> essential to the efficient development of projects that need to be
>> tested against them.
>>
>> Here we have something less nasty by far than a TCK. I think that
>> there's an argument that these could be checked into ordinary repos
>> with some guidelines, but the idea of a special RO repo struck me as a
>> good compromise between avoiding the crazy 'download in every build'
>> process while reducing the risk that we would facilitate some
>> violation of the license.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Nov 25, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
>>>
>>>> With respect, I think we are putting the cart before the horse.
>>>>
>>>> At issue is whether artifacts with unacceptable licenses can appear in
>>>> Apache public svn repositories.
>>>
>>> They can't.  Only open source is allowed in Apache's public svn.
>>>
>>> ....Roy
>>>
>>>
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