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From: Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com>
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Subject: Re: Registering the SpamAssassin trademark - Funds Needed
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:11:11 -0400
References: <48FA790C.7020008@dostech.ca>

To be clear, I think this is a smart move, both with my board and
my PRC hat on, so I +1.

On Oct 18, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:

> Hi Board --
>
> The SpamAssassin PMC is looking to have our currently filed "intent  
> for
> use" trademarks filed as "actual use" trademarks... or something like
> that.  Larry Rosen has volunteered to do the work.  We just need to  
> come
> up with the USPTO fees which Larry estimates to be around $600.  Sam  
> and
> Jim suggested that the board may approve this via a 72 hour lazy
> consensus since it's such a small amount.
>
> Emails regarding this are included below.  There's a small amount more
> in the same thread on the legal-discuss list.
>
> Please ACK or NACK this so I know either way... I don't think my sub  
> to
> the board@ list ever got approved so this may not get through for a
> while, if at all.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Daryl
>
> (on behalf of the SpamAssassin PMC)
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Registering the SpamAssassin trademark
> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:07:29 -0400
> From: Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com>
> Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org
> To: legal-discuss@apache.org
> References: <48BDE194.1000501@dostech.ca>
> <3d4032300809081415o3ab1170cn611e585ff7d21882@mail.gmail.com>
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Daryl C. W. O'Shea
>> <spamassassin@dostech.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> My questions... is this something the ASF would like to have happen
>>> and
>>> how can we go about making it happen?
>>
>> To bring this to closure, here's my suggestion.
>>
>> If the PRC and the SpamAssassin PMCs agree that this should be done,
>> Larry has already graciously volunteered to file the necessary
>> paperwork.  The funding needs approved, and as there isn't a
>> pre-existing budget item for this, that requires board action.  Given
>> the small amount in question, I would think that a quick note to
>> board@ and a 72-hour period of lazy consensus would suffice, but I'll
>> leave that up to Jim to decide.  Once that's done, I will work with
>> Larry (who is doing the work) and J Aaron (ASF Treasurer) to see to  
>> it
>> that the payments are made.
>>
>
> +1
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: Registering the SpamAssassin trademark
> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:12:36 -0700
> From: Lawrence Rosen <lrosen@rosenlaw.com>
> Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org,	<lrosen@rosenlaw.com>
> Organization: Rosenlaw & Einschlag
> To: <legal-discuss@apache.org>
> CC: 'Sam Ruby' <rubys@intertwingly.net>
> References: <48BDE194.1000501@dostech.ca>
> <3d4032300809021903l6aaea476j1b898c40f6beb786@mail.gmail.com>
> <2B0725F9-9D5A-4CB3-B72B-BB239BCCFF81@jaguNET.com>
> <3d4032300809030743u1c9e1b72r86bdaf9fb8c2b97f@mail.gmail.com>
> <012201c90e06$74208250$6701a8c0@LROSENTOSHIBA> <48FA4DDB.7000801@dostech.ca 
> >
>
> Daryl,
>
> If we file new applications, it will cost about $600 in PTO fees. If I
> merely amend the current ones, I'm not sure, but less. As I recall,  
> the
> board has already approved this expenditure.
>
> I haven't yet charged Apache for any of my time helping here. I only  
> ask
> that you take a collection to bail me out of the poorhouse when I  
> get sent
> there for failure to pay my mortgage.
>
> The thing I'm waiting on is a copy of (Robyn's?) files so I can tell  
> what
> happened in the past. Then I'll pursue the PTO amendments.
>
> /Larry
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:spamassassin@dostech.ca]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 1:58 PM
>> To: legal-discuss@apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Registering the SpamAssassin trademark
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> On 03/09/2008 4:48 PM, Lawrence Rosen wrote:
>>> Sam Ruby wrote:
>>>> Looks that way:
>>>>
>>>> http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/q?db=tm&sno=78148991
>>>> http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/q?db=tm&sno=78213077
>>>
>>> It appears that these were filed as "Intent to Use" rather than  
>>> "Actual
>>> Use". Notice of Allowance was mailed, presumably to Robyn, earlier  
>>> this
>>> year. She/we will need to follow up with appropriate statements of  
>>> use
>> to
>>> finalize those registrations.
>>>
>>> http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78148991
>>> http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78213077
>>>
>>> This is turning out to be even cheaper than I first estimated. :-)
>>
>> Would you have an idea of the total cost that might be involved,
>> including any future responses to the USPTO?  If not, could someone  
>> put
>> me in touch with Robyn so that I can obtain an estimate from her?   
>> I'd
>> like to have an idea of the total costs involved before asking the  
>> board
>> for funding approval.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Daryl
>>
>>
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