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From "Samul Kevin" <lovesumm...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: can stlport be used in the project under ASL
Date Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:54:24 GMT
it's been more than 60 hours,does this means we are Ok to use sltport?

2008/9/10 Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>

> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Samul Kevin <lovesummerf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > So the conclusion is OK or should we discuss more or Do you need me to
> > supply more infomation about our project?
>
> This has been on the list for just over 12 hours.  Let's give it
> another 60 or so hours to see if anybody spots something I may have
> missed.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
> > Thks
> >
> > 2008/9/10 Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Ralph Goers
> >> <Ralph.Goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> >> > I'm expressing a personal opinion that you shouldn't have a problem
> >> > using
> >> > stlport. However, I'm not on the legal committee, so my opinion is
> just
> >> > as
> >> > good as yours. I expect Sam or someone else will chime in soon and
> tell
> >> > you
> >> > the same thing.
> >>
> >> I don't see any obvious problems, and I do think that the question
> >> that Garrett Rooney asked previously is an excellent one.  In most
> >> cases, there is no problem with calling standard interfaces provided
> >> by runtime library implementations that ship with compilers, where
> >> those implementations are not shipped in source form with our
> >> products, but derived results may be included in our binaries.
> >>
> >> That's not because there can't be a problem (in the 80's, for example,
> >> IBM sold licenses to use their C++ runtime for OS/2), but because most
> >> compilers these days provide freely redistributable runtimes that do
> >> not affect the licensing of our source.
> >>
> >> - Sam Ruby
> >>
> >> > Ralph
> >> >
> >> > Samul Kevin wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> do you mean stlport is "clearly" compatiable or "may" be used in our
> >> >> project? When i saw through the stlport license it seemed to me it's
> >> >> totally
> >> >> ok to use.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2008/9/10 Ralph Goers <Ralph.Goers@dslextreme.com
> >> >> <mailto:Ralph.Goers@dslextreme.com>>
> >> >>
> >> >>    I'd be very surprised if anyone here has a problem with the
> >> >>    stlport license. The license looks to me like it meets the 3
> >> >>    criteria listed for being "Apache friendly".
> >> >>
> >> >>    Ralph
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>    Garrett Rooney wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>        On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Samul Kevin
> >> >>        <lovesummerf@gmail.com <mailto:lovesummerf@gmail.com>>
wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>            hi,our project is incubatoring in Apache
> >> >>            community:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/bluesky.html
> >> >>            however,the c++ library which we use in current project
> >> >>            collide with
> >> >>            ASL,thus we have to replace the library so that we can
> >> >>            commit source code to
> >> >>            SVN repository.Someone suggested that we could use STLPORT
> >> >>            instead of the
> >> >>            previous c++ library.But we don't clear whether the
> >> >>            stlport license could be
> >> >>            compatiable with ASL.People in our mailing list
> >> >>            bluesky-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >>            <mailto:bluesky-dev@incubator.apache.org> told us
to
> >> >>            consult on this leagal
> >> >>            discussion mailing list.'Cause Apache community decides
if
> >> >>            a project is ok
> >> >>            in using tools with other license.
> >> >>            here is the homepage of
> >> >>            stlport:http://stlport.sourceforge.net/Home.shtml
> >> >>            and the license of stlport :
> >> >>            http://stlport.sourceforge.net/License.shtml
> >> >>
> >> >>            if there is anything that i don't make myself clear ,do
> >> >>            bring it
> >> >>            on.Appreciate your helps!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>        Umm, I don't know anything about the STLPort license, but
> >> >> stepping
> >> >>        back a bit, what C++ standard library are you currently using
> >> >>        that you
> >> >>        think is incompatible with the Apache License?  It seems like
> an
> >> >>        awfully strange piece of software to be trying to replace. 
It
> >> >>        would
> >> >>        be shocking to me if you couldn't use pretty much whatever C++
> >> >>        standard library you wanted.  I mean it's not like we keep
> >> >>        people from
> >> >>        using various different C standard libraries, be they
> >> >> proprietary,
> >> >>        GPLed, etc.
> >> >>
> >> >>        -garrett
> >> >>
> >> >>
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