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From "Sam Ruby" <ru...@intertwingly.net>
Subject Re: Including Sun DTDs in SVN and distribution archives
Date Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:34:04 GMT
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Craig L Russell <Craig.Russell@sun.com> wrote:
> Hi Sebb,
>
>  I was all set to give you the definitive example of using a JCP
>  specified file (http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/myfaces/tobago/tags/tobago-1.0.11/core/src/test/resources/web-jsptaglibrary_1_2.dtd?r1=539876&r2=540449&pathrev=540449&diff_format=h
>  ) and discovered that IMHO MyFaces did it wrong.
>
>  They apparently retyped the file from the spec. Typing the file by
>  hand doesn't change the copyright or owner. It doesn't allow us to
>  license the resulting file under ASL 2.0.
>
>  We went through a lot of effort to reissue these metadata files under
>  a more permissive license (CDDL) and the new versions should be used
>  by Apache projects.
>
>  I believe that MyFaces should include the current version from the web
>  and NOTICE it in the distribution.

+1

>  Craig
>
>  On Apr 1, 2008, at 3:08 PM, sebb wrote:
>
>  > On 01/04/2008, Craig L Russell <Craig.Russell@sun.com> wrote:
>  >> Hi Sebb,
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> On Apr 1, 2008, at 2:24 PM, sebb wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> I've searched the list and read everything that seems to be
>  >>> relevant,
>  >>> but I have not found what appears to be a definitive answer to this.
>  >>> Apologies if this has been answered fully.
>  >>>
>  >>> Cactus currently includes old versions of the DTDs
>  >>>
>  >>> application_1_2.dtd
>  >>> application_1_3.dtd
>  >>> web-app_2_2.dtd
>  >>> web-app_2_3.dtd
>  >>>
>  >>> These are Copyright Sun, and appear to be older versions of
>  >>>
>  >>> http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/application_1_2.dtd
>  >>> http://java.sun.com/dtd/application_1_3.dtd
>  >>> http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/web-app_2_2.dtd
>  >>> http://java.sun.com/dtd/web-app_2_3.dtd
>  >>>
>  >>> The new files look to have better licenses, which are dual CDDL
>  >>> +GPL2.
>  >>>
>  >>> My questions:
>  >>> - is it OK to include these files in distrbutions/SVN under the CDDL
>  >>> license?
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> If you are talking about replacing the current files with the
>  >> appropriately-licensed files, yes. This is addressed in the current
>  >> draft third party license policy http://people.apache.org/~rubys/3party.html
>  >>
>  >>> If so:
>  >>
>  >> The policy currently is missing the details of what exactly to do
>  >> regarding "appropriately labeled". You can take a look at what
>  >> myfaces
>  >> did for labeling.
>  >>
>  >
>  > I'm finding it very difficult to find my way round the myfaces
>  > products.
>  >
>  > Which one has the DTDs?
>
>
> >
>  >> Craig
>  >>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> - the files describe how to choose between CDDL and GPL, but I don't
>  >>> quite follow how to do this - is it just a question of adding the
>  >>> following text under the "Contributors:" heading:
>  >>>
>  >>> "The Apache Software Foundation elects to include this software in
>  >>> this distribution under the CDDL license."
>  >>>
>  >>> - the CDDL presumably needs to be included in the LICENSE file; what
>  >>> needs to be added to the NOTICE file?
>  >>>
>  >>
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>  >>
>  >> Craig Russell
>  >> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/
>  >> jdo
>  >> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
>  >> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>
>  Craig Russell
>  Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
>  408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
>  P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
>

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