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Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:01:37 -0800
From: Craig L Russell <Craig.Russell@Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: Notice and License files in JavaDoc jars
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To: Niall Pemberton <niall.pemberton@gmail.com>
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Hi Niall,

I understand this to the policy on this issue [1]
"Does the policy apply to binary/object files, such as executables or  
JAR files?

Yes. Even if there are no source files within the release, the  
LICENSE file and NOTICE file are still both required within every ASF  
distribution -- whether the unit of distribution is  
a .jar, .msi, .tar/.?gz, .zip, .exe installer, or any other file  
format used for distributions. For example, Windows .exe files must  
not be used as a unit of distribution unless they are installers and  
include the LICENSE and NOTICE files in their installation."

To me, this means that any release must contain the LICENSE and  
NOTICE files. The question is "What is a distribution?"

The way I read it, if someone can download a documentation jar file,  
it's a distribution. If someone can use maven to automatically  
download a dependent jar file, it's a distribution. The only time a  
documentation jar file can omit the LICENSE and NOTICE files is if  
it's bundled inside a distribution that itself contains the LICENSE  
and NOTICE files.

Craig

[1] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html

On Jan 8, 2008, at 8:39 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote:

> To make life easier for IDE users projects often generate a "jar"
> (archive) file containing just the "generated" javadocs for a project.
> Is it a requirement to have a Notice and License file in that archive
> for these generated docs (they're HTML format and have an ASF
> copyright line at the bottom of each page).
>
> To me it seems like this is overkill, but some people are vetoing
> releases in Apache Commons when its missing.
>
> TIA
>
> Niall
>
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Craig Russell
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408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


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