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From "Gilles Scokart" <gscok...@gmail.com>
Subject Fwd: ECCN questions, again, this time Ant (and sub project)
Date Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:41:12 GMT
Sorry, I accidentaly removed the legal-discuss@apache.org

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From: Gilles Scokart <gscokart@gmail.com>
Date: 11 oct. 2007 12:38
Subject: Re: ECCN questions, again, this time Ant (and sub project)
To: "Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@gbiv.com>

Does that means that for the notification of the ant or ivy product, the
manufacturer for the jsch crypto item should be ASF?


2007/10/10, Roy T. Fielding < fielding@gbiv.com>:
> On Oct 10, 2007, at 4:08 AM, Gilles Scokart wrote:
> > And what about the fact that jsch has probably no ECCN ?  Is it
> > enought to check that jsch fall under the 5D002 criteria, or do we
> > have to ask them notify the US Government?
> Each exporter from US to outside the US has to provide an ECCN on
> what it exports if the content of that export is controlled by EAR.
> The original authors of jsch are not US exporters, so they don't care.
> If we don't include jsch in one of our builds, then we don't export it.
> If we do, then it is the ECCN of *our entire build* that matters -- the
> classification applies to the package as a whole, not individual bits.
> The individual bits are only relevant when we are exporting a controlled
> package, in which case we must provide the source link for each
> manufacturer of controlled code within that package.
> Think of it as a handgun.  If we export a device that includes within
> it a handgun, then we must classify the device and describe the gun.
> If we export a device that is specifically made for containing and
> operating a handgun, but does not include the gun, then we only have
> to classify the device.  OTOH, if we export a device that does not
> contain a handgun and is not specifically designed to operate one,
> then the device is not controlled by handgun laws at all, and thus
> has no classification (ECCN) under those laws.
> ....Roy



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