Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 15772 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2007 04:52:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Aug 2007 04:52:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 93867 invoked by uid 500); 10 Aug 2007 04:52:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 93612 invoked by uid 500); 10 Aug 2007 04:52:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 93596 invoked by uid 99); 10 Aug 2007 04:52:45 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:52:45 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.43.132] (HELO sca-es-mail-1.sun.com) (192.18.43.132) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 04:52:41 +0000 Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l7A4qLWA027451 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2007 21:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JMJ00C01K6IJS00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for legal-discuss@apache.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (c-24-6-172-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.172.77]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JMJ0084SK788710@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:52:11 -0700 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: SUN PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL code in myfaces In-reply-to: <3d4032300708091850g5b24214bq23577fbd001be67e@mail.gmail.com> Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: Sam Ruby Cc: David Jencks , ASF Legal Discuss , "Geronimo Dev List (JIRA)" Message-id: <3B25AE69-79E4-48FC-B4B9-54767E87FD44@SUN.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary=Apple-Mail-291-108418027; micalg=sha1 References: <46520CFC.30904@wstoddard.com> <2821690.10733841186161809121.JavaMail.root@elysia.void.it> <3d4032300708031055q6dcf78f3ndb381963a8d008b5@mail.gmail.com> <24246402.10826781186190447091.JavaMail.root@elysia.void.it> <4CB71A27-CEC5-4BC7-8F0D-8A4B461008A9@SUN.com> <80E83A50-E03F-458D-90FF-58144A20A1D2@yahoo.com> <3d4032300708040423k69b56a62g6ce8e90302bdd4a6@mail.gmail.com> <208A6CBB-E9B1-4EA6-ADB4-2E127E86D7A2@yahoo.com> <3d4032300708041250i60394228rf2103a258691c644@mail.gmail.com> <360E4010-E632-4EC3-8F83-BE10182D588F@yahoo.com> <3d4032300708091850g5b24214bq23577fbd001be67e@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-291-108418027 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Aug 9, 2007, at 6:50 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On 8/4/07, David Jencks wrote: >> >> I'm a bit confused though about the inclusion of cddl xsds in apache >> svn since IIUC you have indicated xsds are definitely "source >> code" (I completely agree) and the draft 3rd party licensing page >> says cddl source can't be in apache releases. It doesn't say whether >> a few files can be in svn or not AFAICT but that certainly looks like >> it would prohibit shipping an asf jar with any cddl xsds in it. > > I've updated the draft 3rd party licensing page: > > http://people.apache.org/~rubys/3party.html +1 Thanks for the update, Sam! IIUC, Geronimo makes two uses of the CDDL-licensed xsd files. 1. The unmodified xsd files are available to the xml parser to avoid downloading the files from the internet during operation. 2. The unmodified xsd files are "compiled" into Java classes which are then compiled into binary form for execution. The new policy seems to address both cases, assuming that Geronimo chooses to update their copies of the files to the CDDL-licensed versions. > The longer term intent is to revise the document to say something > along the lines of "Category A is always OK", > "Category C is never You mean Category X I assume... Craig P.S. One more note: I've been unable to get a timely response from the Java SE folks regarding licensing of the two remaining dtd files. Hopefully there will be a reply shortly... > http://java.sun.com/dtd/properties.dtd > http://java.sun.com/dtd/preferences.dtd > OK", and "Category B is up to the PMC, with the following > guidance...". > > - Sam Ruby > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER: Discussions on this list are informational and educational > only. Statements made on this list are not privileged, do not > constitute legal advice, and do not necessarily reflect the opinions > and policies of the ASF. See for > official ASF policies and documents. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? 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