Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 53135 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2007 13:22:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 2007 13:22:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 49667 invoked by uid 500); 21 Apr 2007 13:22:32 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 49435 invoked by uid 500); 21 Apr 2007 13:22:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 49396 invoked by uid 99); 21 Apr 2007 13:22:31 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 21 Apr 2007 06:22:31 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (herse.apache.org: 212.27.42.35 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of elecharny@gmail.com) Received: from [212.27.42.35] (HELO smtp5-g19.free.fr) (212.27.42.35) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 21 Apr 2007 06:22:23 -0700 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (vol75-3-82-66-216-176.fbx.proxad.net [82.66.216.176]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136F6432B7; Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:22:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <462A0FF9.9010102@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:22:01 +0200 From: Emmanuel Lecharny User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20050923) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: private@mina.apache.org CC: Trustin Lee , Legal Discuss Subject: Re: RXTX library and ASL References: <768dcb2e0704190724k22e7c094h9f6560576b18fd38@mail.gmail.com> <1176994102.5025.25.camel@localhost> <768dcb2e0704190819w6f4950b3sba0fe5c3da66b7f@mail.gmail.com> <4629FC9D.3040905@qos.ch> In-Reply-To: <4629FC9D.3040905@qos.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Ceki Gulcu a �crit : > Hello, > > This is new to me. Can anyone else confirm the statement "until you > don't distribute the LGPL libraries, you can depend on it" ? I think you can't, as stated in http://wiki.apache.org/old/Licensing : "...LGPL - Shall *not* use either Java import or C #include. Shall *not* /static/ link. ..." So you can't use Interfaces declared in a LGPL program, it seems. But this is not clear... The mentionned threadis 100 mails long, and full of other considerations. I would suggest we ask Clifft during ApacheCon in May, so we have a clear answer. Incidentally, Ceki, this raise an issue with your new Logback library. Any way for you to switch back to the 'old good' ASL license ? Emmanuel > > Many thanks in advance, > > Trustin Lee wrote: > >> On 4/19/07, Julien Vermillard wrote: >> >>> Le jeudi 19 avril 2007 � 23:24 +0900, Trustin Lee a �crit : >>> > Hi community, >>> > >>> > Recently, one of the Apache MINA committers merged serial port >>> > communication code as an optional submodule to the trunk, which >>> was in >>> > the sandbox for a long time. The code depends on a Java serial port >>> > communication library called 'RXTX' (http://www.rxtx.org/). >>> > >>> > Being a stupid, I thought it *was* licensed under LGPL, but it is >>> now >>> > licensed under ASL 2.0, but it was not. It is still licensed under >>> > LGPL with an exception clause like Hibernate does. >>> > >>> > http://users.frii.com/jarvi/rxtx/license.html >>> > >>> > I guess it's still prohibited to depend on RXTX even if there's an >>> > exception clause, even if we use it as a binary form, right? >>> > >>> > If so, is there any way other than moving the submodule to other >>> > hosting site? (I think there's no other way, but I'm just >>> > double-checking. ;) >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Trustin >>> >>> >From what I understand until you don't distribute the LGPL libraries, >>> you can depend on it : >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200508.mbox/% >>> >>> 3c96D75844-B15A-45E3-BF8D-5CF4517A09E2@apache.org%3e >> >> >> Oops, I missed that thread! Thanks for clarification, Julien! >> >> Trustin > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: Discussions on this list are informational and educational only. Statements made on this list are not privileged, do not constitute legal advice, and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and policies of the ASF. See for official ASF policies and documents. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org