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From "Howard Lewis Ship" <hls...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: About bundling JavaScript with frameworks
Date Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:29:52 GMT
OK, just to double check:

I can include outside works (the javascript libraries) in my project.

The libraries will be checked into Apache SVN, but will maintain the
copyright notice of the original author.

I'll include a LICENSE.txt file for the javascript libraries, and
update NOTICE.txt to identify the library and the name of its license.

The JavaScript library will appear in distribution via Maven and via
traditional bin/src downloads.

... that covers my needs for JavaScript. The particular libraries in
question are Prototype and Scriptaculous, but may grow to include
Dojo, jQuery and jMaki over time.

... now, can the same thing apply to redistributing JARs for
non-Apache Java software?  In this case, its a redistribution of OGNL
and Javassist. Neither is LGPL(OGNL is MPL-derivative, Javassist is
MPL) and they would be redistributed only inside the binary
distribution as a packaged JAR (without source).  Because of Maven
there would be no need to include the JARs nside Apache's SVN. Again,
include licenses, keep NOTICE.txt up to date, but we're OK?

This is a bit of a departure from my previous understanding, which may
have been wrong due to my lack of grey matter, or just bad


On 2/20/07, Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:23 AM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> >
> >> Where it gets interesting is that I think we have then baked in the
> >> usage as a BSD license and we need to make sure that our users don't
> >> use it as an Academic Free License. This thread would be better
> >> placed
> >> on legal-discuss@.
> The license comes from the copyright owner.  No matter how we distribute
> the code, we cannot change the terms offered by the copyright owner
> unless we are given a separate license to do so by that owner (e.g.,
> CLA).
> We might add additional terms for our collective work, but those terms
> do not apply to the individual part if it is extracted from our work
> and used on its own.
> In any case, most copyright licenses only apply when making copies
> for non-personal use, so it really doesn't matter to users.
> ....Roy

Howard M. Lewis Ship
TWD Consulting, Inc.
Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator and PMC Chair, Apache Tapestry
Creator, Apache HiveMind

Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support
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