Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 91739 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2006 07:16:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Oct 2006 07:16:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 12190 invoked by uid 500); 26 Oct 2006 07:16:18 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 12003 invoked by uid 500); 26 Oct 2006 07:16:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 11992 invoked by uid 99); 26 Oct 2006 07:16:17 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:16:17 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of cliffschmidt@gmail.com designates 66.249.82.238 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.82.238] (HELO wx-out-0506.google.com) (66.249.82.238) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:16:04 -0700 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s15so327912wxc for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:15:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oUb2FzvILAeJcU9QXYwg9i5qSiPlaWW6c/Wh7M7XkO4BKsC+cQCVGvXpHlTamI7cUZBf3vDu/5GUXO9WPqiOBmZ/6AUmb3n4AfuooZr4FN/9e6v0XBQMV13fQIo/L44Jdp4qmGXuQz/qmbitveNw9t3YYa+72pDJoP7wBNzOqiE= Received: by 10.70.76.11 with SMTP id y11mr2709278wxa; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.40.8 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:15:43 -0700 From: "Cliff Schmidt" To: "Jean T. Anderson" Subject: Re: Requirements for projects that enable but don't include or implement crypto Cc: legal-discuss@apache.org In-Reply-To: <453D8E12.1090101@apache.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <453D8E12.1090101@apache.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 10/23/06, Jean T. Anderson wrote: > http://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html#faq says: > > "If my project ships a binary that provides bindings to OpenSSL, but > does not include its source or binaries, what notifications must be made? > > The only required notification for an Apache project that is > specially designed to use, but doesn't include, such crypto, is just the > notification for the ASF product code." > > Somebody else asked a question about this in September [1]. From that > thread I have the impression that projects that can enable crypto > functionality but don't include or implement it need to do two things: > > 1) Provide info for the ASF export page [2] (create the RDF file and add > an entry for it to licenses/exports/export-registry.xml) > > 2) Include a notice in the distribution's README [3] > > Is this correct? You would need to do all the things listed on that page, which is the two above plus the requirement to send the email notification as well. Maybe I need to reword that FAQ, but the idea was to say that you do not need to do anything about the OpenSSL code at all, but you still need to do all the steps for the *other* crypto code, which is the Apache project that is specially designed to work with the OpenSSL code. In other words, anything that has a crypto-specific interface is also considered to be crypto. So, you still have to do all the right things for *that* crypto as well, even if you don't distribute the other crypto. Make sense? > Even though this doesn't appear to be a legal requirement [4] I'm > working on adding this info to Derby and want to make sure I get it right. The only part that isn't a legal requirement is sticking the text in the README file; we require this as part of our crypto export policy, because we think it is the appropriate thing to do for our users (plus, many of them come bug us about it later if we don't give them the info at the time). HTH. Cliff > [1] > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200609.mbox/%3cW1948815985110611157220467@webmail7%3e > [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/ > [3] http://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html#inform > [4] > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200605.mbox/%3c44610F0E.1050601@rowe-clan.net%3e --------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: Discussions on this list are informational and educational only. 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