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From Mario Ivankovits <ima...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Adding LGPL library to Jakarta projects - Commons-VFS as reference
Date Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:22:45 GMT
Just a short ping to see if someone is still interested in this.
> Hi!
>
> Motivated by a personal discussion with Cliff during the ApacheCon EU
> 2006 I kicked a thread at pmc@jakarta about the rules how to add LGPL
> stuff to our projects.
>
> The vote passed with 17 +1, 2 -0 and 1 -1.
> Which means in general the PMC at Jakarta agreed on the rules when and
> how to add a LGPL library to a Jakarta project.
> I put the rules in our wiki at
> http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Using_LGPL'd_code (section: Latest
> LGPL@jakarta informations (2006) - I'll remove the rest of the page
> after the final approvement)
>
> To make it easier I'll paste the rules once again here:
>
> 1) ask the original library author to change its license or provide a
> double licensing model
> 2) look for an alternative implementation with an ASF friendly license
> 3) the build script BY DEFAULT excludes java classes depending on LGPL
> 4) a special parameter will enable building these classes
> 5) its not allowed to bundle the LGPL library with any distribution
> (nightly, release)
> 6) the function the library gains from the LGPL stuff is fully optional
> 7) a bridging api (which can reside within the same project - so can be
> hosted at apache) will be used to access these LGPL stuff to clearly
> show its optional behaviour
> 8) a vote for adding a LGPL dependency to a project on pmc@
>
> Is this the correct and acceptable way?
>
> Together with this vote we voted to allow the JCIFS library
> (http://jcifs.samba.org/) being a dependency for VFS. This library
> allows access to windows shares.
> The briding API in VFS is located in the org.apache.commons.vfs.provider
> package
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/commons/proper/vfs/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/vfs/provider/smb
> This vote passed with 14 +1
>
> As you might notice this code already exist. It was there before I pick
> up VFS and IMHO sometimes in the past the license of the JCIFS library
> changed to LGPL without noticing it.
>
> Now, if legal approve the above rules I'll start setup the VFS build to
> match rule 3+4 all other rules are already achieved.
>
>
> Some more words to the -0/-1 during the "LGPL rules":
>
> Well, during the discussion it was often the talk about "GPL and LGPL"
> or "(L)GPL" - so we somehow mixed those both licenses.
> IF legal@ approve our procedure, I think it would be nice if legal@
> could setup a short wiki about the WHY we allow it (especially for the
> LGPL thing (not GPL) - something easy to read ;-) ) so that big
> companies can follow our argumentation more easily and maybe don't have
> that much problems with projects gaining functionality from optional
> LGPL libraries.
>
> I think this is a serious concern we have to address. Companies should
> not have the impression the ASF license is somehow tampered with such a
> procedure.
> If we don't manage to express our thoughts it might be best to cancel
> this thing.
>
> Legal@, you have the last word ;-)
>
>
> Thanks!
> Ciao,
> Mario
>
>
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