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From Daniel John Debrunner <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Derby and the JCP
Date Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:17:22 GMT
Bill Shannon wrote:
> We've approved an update to the spec license for non-final specs that
> removes the notification requirement for applications.  We'll be
> publishing an updated version of the JDBC 4.0 spec ASAP, with luck
> this week.  I hope this will address your concerns.

Thanks Bill.

Now for the next concern, which in a way is a more general concern. :-(

For an ASF release, what are rules for the third-party items a release
manager used to *build* the release? I'm not asking about distributing
such items, just the use of them during the build process.

>From this discussion it seems clear that any use of a third-party
licence that imposes a restriction on the resulting build is not acceptable.

What about if the release manager belongs a select group of folks who
can get some technology under a licence that does *not* impose
restrictions, while the generally available licence does impose

To provide a concrete example, use of the Mustang compiler to build
Derby for its JDBC 4 features would seem to impose this restriction:

"2.2 Binary Code. Sun grants to Licensee, a
non-exclusive, non-transferable, royalty-free and
limited license to use the binary code portions of the
Licensed Software internally for the purposes of
evaluation only."


However, let's say the release manager is from Sun and gets an internal
version of mustang without this restriction and builds a Derby release.
Is the release acceptable to the ASF?

[I have no actual idea what the plans are for using Mustang compiler
with Derby and if the release manager who happens to be from Sun is
planning a to get a non-resticted Mustang for his own use].

There may also be issues with other third-party items that derby
(optionally) uses to build such as JSR169 jars.


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