Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 81807 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2005 04:37:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Sep 2005 04:37:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 64517 invoked by uid 500); 17 Sep 2005 04:37:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 64350 invoked by uid 500); 17 Sep 2005 04:37:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 64337 invoked by uid 99); 17 Sep 2005 04:37:06 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:37:06 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [216.173.237.167] (HELO mail26d.sbc-webhosting.com) (216.173.237.167) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:37:14 -0700 Received: from mx31.stngva01.us.mxservers.net (204.202.242.105) by mail26d.sbc-webhosting.com (RS ver 1.0.95vs) with SMTP id 4-0365251819 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.rosenlaw.com [216.173.242.124] (EHLO RosenLaptop) by mx31.stngva01.us.mxservers.net (mxl_mta-1.3.8-10p4) with ESMTP id b6d9b234.10843.259.mx31.stngva01.us.mxservers.net; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Lawrence Rosen" To: Subject: RE: [OASIS] RF (Royalty Free) on RAND Terms Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:36:57 -0700 Organization: Rosenlaw & Einschlag MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <19e0530f050916202919cbebda@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcW7N/lLQvmb23+NQYO9P/Pi+s6WgwACJGKA X-Spam: [F=0.0366079703; heur=0.500(-2300); stat=0.010; spamtraq-heur=0.790(2005091614)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [216.173.242.124] Message-ID: <20050917003700.GA36525@mail26d.sbc-webhosting.com> X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-DistLoop-Detect: 1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > What's our position on implementing an OASIS standard that is > under "RF (Royalty Free) on RAND Terms" (Section 10.2.2 - > http://www.oasis-open.org/who/intellectualproperty.php)? Is > there a specific mode listed in the url above that is good > for us (better than the others?) Without seeing the specific license and its terms and conditions, or without assurance by OASIS that there are *no* patent claims asserted by anyone for that standard, there's no way to tell what Apache's position should be. Apache has rejected some OASIS patent licenses (e.g., SenderID, WS-Security) and been comfortable with others (DomainKeys). It all depends on the specific license terms. OASIS has refused to provide a "standard" license for its standards that we could approve or reject up-front. Instead, they describe vague "RF (Royalty Free) on RAND Terms" kinds of licenses in their policies, but without specifics. /Larry Lawrence Rosen Rosenlaw & Einschlag, technology law offices (www.rosenlaw.com) 3001 King Ranch Road, Ukiah, CA 95482 707-485-1242 * fax: 707-485-1243 Author of "Open Source Licensing: Software Freedom and Intellectual Property Law" (Prentice Hall 2004) [Available also at www.rosenlaw.com/oslbook.htm] > -----Original Message----- > From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 8:29 PM > To: legal-discuss@apache.org > Subject: [OASIS] RF (Royalty Free) on RAND Terms > > Hi team, > > What's our position on implementing an OASIS standard that is > under "RF (Royalty Free) on RAND Terms" (Section 10.2.2 - > http://www.oasis-open.org/who/intellectualproperty.php)? Is > there a specific mode listed in the url above that is good > for us (better than the others?) > > thanks, > dims > > -- > Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/ - Oxygenating The Web > Service Platform > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER: Discussions on this list are informational and > educational only, are not privileged and do not constitute > legal advice. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: Discussions on this list are informational and educational only, are not privileged and do not constitute legal advice. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org