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From Davanum Srinivas <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: IBM and WS-Security
Date Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:15:20 GMT
William,

See the actual terms from MSFT and IBM (similar to Sender-ID)
http://www.ibm.com/ibm/licensing/977Q/2112.shtml
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/ip/standards/

-- dims

On 6/24/05, William A. Rowe, Jr. <wrowe@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> At 09:22 AM 6/24/2005, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >William,
> >
> >In this specific case, Microsoft has not divulged which patent(s) if
> >any are infringed upon. In the case of IBM and Verisign, from their
> >legal counsel we know that there are no patents involved on their
> >side. For microsoft's initial response to my question on specific
> >patents, see (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wss/200506/msg00123.html).
> >I think i finally managed to get through to a key decision maker there
> >- Andrew Layman. Hopefully, we will hear something one way or another.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/wss/ipr.php
> 
> FWIW, I don't see how this statement from IBM, Microsoft, and VeriSign
> would not cover us;
> 
> 2. Each Author commits to grant a non sub-licensable, non-transferable
> license to third parties, under royalty-free and other reasonable and
> non-discriminatory terms and conditions, to certain of their respective
> patent claims that such Author deems necessary to implement required
> portions of the WS-Security specification, provided a reciprocal license
> is granted.
> 
> You would need to note every separately licensed patent within
> the NOTICE file of your project, of course.  However, does this
> mean they are not offering royalty-free licensing to users, only
> to developers (implement)?  Note it's explicitly a non-transferable
> license.
> 
> Content Guard proposed RAND license if they were infringed, which
> isn't acceptable (royalty free is not stated).  RSA requires
> a separate licensing contract through their web site, which
> certainly seems to be an excessive term of their grant offer
> (http://www.rsasecurity.com/node.asp?id=2531).
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/

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