Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 20435 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 07:41:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 07:41:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 68697 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2005 07:41:55 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 68545 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2005 07:41:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 68522 invoked by uid 99); 31 Mar 2005 07:41:54 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from chi.mobile-health-diary.com (HELO chi.mobile-health-diary.com) (128.241.244.71) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:41:53 -0800 Received: (qmail 16637 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 07:41:50 -0000 Received: from ool-43560634.dyn.optonline.net (HELO ?10.0.1.30?) (geir@67.86.6.52) by b014.internal.mobile-health-diary.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 07:41:50 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050331011917.0766b780@pop3.rowe-clan.net> References: <200503311119.26216.niclas@apache.org> <6.2.1.2.2.20050330212300.04273850@pop3.rowe-clan.net> <6.2.1.2.2.20050331011917.0766b780@pop3.rowe-clan.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <56F3A1BE-A1B8-11D9-B609-000A95D41A40@apache.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Geir Magnusson Jr. Subject: Re: Apache License : grant of patent license and derivative works Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:41:48 -0500 To: William Rowe Jr. , legal-discuss@apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Mar 31, 2005, at 2:23 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > At 09:31 PM 3/30/2005, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > >> I have every right to claim that I granted the rights for you to >> produce stoves under my license. Not furnaces. I insist on $5 >> per furnace. > > As Larry Rosen reminds me, the magic word "derivative" in our > license likely solves this issue. What is derivative? Solving > ftp in the context of the Apache HTTP Server? Using the crypto > logic from Apache HTTP Server to power the Tomcat Server? All > of these sorts of activities seem to be derivative, so the ASL2 > patent grant seems sufficiently broad. I no longer see any > issues coming from patented logic submitted to the ASF under > the ASL2. Obviously external patents held by non-contributors > will always remain a concern. The AL2 patent grant has no language about "derivative" or "sublicense". geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 geirm@apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: Discussions on this list are informational and educational only, are not privileged and do not constitute legal advice. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org