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Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 09:09:32 -0800
From: "Jean T. Anderson" <jta@bristowhill.com>
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Subject: Re: Question about using CPL-licensed software
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Thanks, Geir,

The "this is creating derivative works under the CPL, and  distributing 
them from apache under the CPL, which we don't do." is perfectly clear.

Is this guideline specific to CPL? Or is it a general guideline to not 
commit files to svn that don't have an apache license?

In other words, if the derby community would like to use a DITA Toolkit 
with a different license should I ping legal-discuss about that specific 
license? I don't know how many toolkits there might be out there, but 
there's already more than one.

thanks again,

  -jean

p.s. I'll poke around the apache xml projects to see if dita has 
appeared on any of their radars.

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> 
> On Mar 4, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> 
>> The Derby community voted to accept DITA as the source format for the  
>> Derby manuals; see:
>>
>> http://mail-archives.eu.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-dev/200503.mbox/ 
>> %3c20050302193138.488.qmail@web81609.mail.yahoo.com%3e
>>
>> There is a license wrinkle to this, which has to do with the DITA  
>> Toolkit used for converting document source into human-consumable  
>> format, such as html, pdf, or whatever. So far, the SourceForge  
>> toolkit is the most interesting because it does what is needed:
>> http://mail-archives.eu.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-dev/200503.mbox/ 
>> %3c20050303190926.78090.qmail@web81603.mail.yahoo.com%3e
>>
>> The SourceForge DITA Toolkit has a CPL license.
>>
>> Files in the Toolkit are meant to be copied, then modified for a  
>> specific project. This lets a project control the look and feel of 
>> the  resulting documents.
>>
>> Would Apache allow us to copy those CPL-licensed files, modify them  
>> for Derby, then check them into the derby svn repository?
>>
>> If this would not be allowed, then we need to make it clear to the  
>> Derby community that we can use the DITA Toolkit (unmodified) to  
>> convert docs, but need to produce our own files that override  defaults.
> 
> 
> 
> I think the safe way is to write the files that override the defaults.   
> Otherwise, this is creating derivative works under the CPL, and  
> distributing them from apache under the CPL, which we don't do.
> 
> geir
> 
> 
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>>  -jean
>>
>>


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