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From BJ Hargrave <hargr...@us.ibm.com>
Subject Re: OSGi CT access
Date Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:25:02 GMT
The MOU should probably make clear that Apache took on certain obligations 
to license the materials and the signer of the MOU is also undertaking 
those same obligations as an agent of Apache. These obligations may 

- the materials are licensed to Apache for a specific use and may not be 
used for other purposes
- the materials are not to be redistributed
- etc.

BJ Hargrave
Senior Technical Staff Member, IBM
OSGi Fellow and CTO of the OSGi Alliance

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"Geir Magnusson Jr." <geir@pobox.com>
2010/01/20 07:53
Re: OSGi CT access

Shall we move forward on our organizational desire to get out of the NDA 

When I put the NDA together some years ago, it was based on my view that 
we as a corporation needed something tangible with which we could 
demonstrate that we were taking reasonable steps to provide oversight over 
confidential materials that we licensed and were obligated to keep 

However, the OSGi CT is different - it doesn't require a formal NDA 

That said, I do think it's really valuable to have a "Memorandum of 
Understanding" or "Agreement for Licensed Materials" so that people have 
to acknowledge to us that such materials aren't open source, or things 
that can be redistributed at will, but a document without the formal 
burdens of confidentiality and liability upon the signer.

For example : 

1) That materials provided are licensed by the ASF for the use by and only 
by ASF projects.

2) That the recipient will use reasonable care when using such materials 
(whatever that means).

3) The recipient understands that they are not to be distributed to or 
used by 3rd parties.

If nothing else, this gives us a solid leg to stand on in the event a 
person mishandles the materials....


On Jan 19, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:

> On 1/19/10 10:11 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>> I'd like to confirm the process for gaining access to the OSGi CT.
>> An ASF committer can:
>> * submit an NDA -- http://www.apache.org/jcp/ApacheNDA.pdf
>> * send a request on jcp-open, presumably with an simple explanation of 
why they would like access to the CT (e.g. I'm working on the Apache Aries 
project and would like access to the OSGi CT).
>> Is that about right?
> Well, unless someone has a reason why not, I suggest we follow the above 
as the procedure for getting access to the OSGi CT since it seems as 
reasonable as any.
> So, go ahead and submit your NDA and I'll send you the CT.
> -> richard

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